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[–]america_first_1776[S] 30 insightful - 8 fun30 insightful - 7 fun31 insightful - 8 fun -  (24 children)

This guy, named Garrett Foster, and his blm mob made a car stop in the middle of the street. Foster shot 5 rounds with his rifle and missed, but the driver got out of his car and did not miss when he shot that communist bastard 3 times with his handgun. The world is now a safer place because Garrett Foster isn't around. Rest in Piss, you communist sack of shit.

edit: Update. Shots were not fired by Foster (it was someone else in the mob), but Foster is clearly seen pointing his rifle at the driver

[–]qbn 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

This is false. Foster didn't fire his weapon per Austin PD. Source from the exact same website: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/austin-police-confirm-two-people-opened-fire-shooting-black-lives-matter-protest/

You're a piece of shit for lying about it.

[–]america_first_1776[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]KennyLogins 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're a piece of shit for lying about it.

Why do you have to be so aggressive? There is a chance that OP believed, as many did, the initial reports and have not seen the updated information. The reports seemed credible to anyone who heard the audio, two distinctly different firearm sounds. It's not far fetched to have thought one of those weapons fired was held by Foster. It's not far fetched to think that standing only 30-some hours from the event occurring, not everyone has seen the most updated information.

[–]qbn 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Actively spreading false information is a form of conflict escalation. Even if OP just doesn't care about truth it is reckless.

[–]Minedwe 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It seems you have completely neglected to read the comment or use common sense.

[–]KennyLogins 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Every person is misinformed to some degree and thus spreading false information--this includes you and I. It may also include OP. You are correct, false information is deleterious, I agree. I just question the efficacy of further escalation through insults.

[–]GConly 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Police have not yet determined what charges either shooter will face, if any.

I'm not sure the guy who shot Garrett did anything wrong legally even if he did fire first. He was surrounded by an angry mob armed with guns trying to yank him out if his vehicle. Unless it turns out he deliberately accelerated into the crowd in an attempt to kill someone (which seems unlikely as he braked) he's got a good case that he believed his life in danger.

Cops are going by eyewitness reports at this time which are always shady as hell. We'll need to wait for the ballistics to be sure.

What no-one is asking is that if the first salvo of five shots was the driver firing at Garrett, where did the other four bullets go?

One adult male victim was located with a gunshot wound,”

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm inclined to withhold judgement until there's been a proper investigation. Right now what we have are media outlets and pundits pushing whatever best fits their perspectives. It's all over the place. Some claim that Garrett fired first, which seems to be a bit dubious. Some claim he was pointing his rifle at the car, and photos seem to support that. Some claim the driver had 'barrelled' through a crowd, which seems odd given that we don't have a whole bunch of people with injuries from being knocked down by a car. Some are claiming that the driver been driving around, shooting at people.

We'll have a better picture once the police have been able to piece together the events of the evening.

[–]GConly 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

which seems odd given that we don't have a whole bunch of people with injuries

Yes, I noticed that. The only injured party coming to light is Garrett. Many gunshots too, only one injury. Where did the rest of them go? Does the car have bullet holes?

I ask because in another similar incident a rioter fired into the engine of a car trying to get through.

I've learned that eyewitness accounts are probably the least reliable evidence around. Plus people do lie. I'm waiting for ballistics and an audio assessment of the gun shot noise. Not that I think it matters a whole bunch unless they can show the driver was ploughing through the crowd.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, eye witness accounts are flakey at the best of times let alone when everything is so polarised. I wouldn’t even accuse witnesses of lying. They probably believe what they claim were the events of the night.

[–]soundsalad 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Not only did he not fire shots according to Austin PD, but he was allegedly a Libertarian. You are a goddamn idiot and apparently so is the rest of Saiddit who upvoted your bitch ass.

[–]Dr_Bukkake 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even if he didn’t fire it, if he so much as raised it up and drew down on the vehicle that’s enough for the driver to defend himself.

[–]soundsalad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ok, sure. But OP is still a fucking asshole.

[–]FediNetizen 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Libertarian white dude, and a vet, was marching with BLM, gets killed, and this guy is trying to act like he had it coming or something? What a piece of shit.

[–]JamalGinsberg 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Surrounding a car and pointing a gun at the driver, yeah he had it coming.

[–]veetnampho 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anyone marching with BLM terrorists are not libertarians.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Lol this is some of the most retarded gatekeeping. I'll be sure to hit you up when I want to know what political groups a libertarian is allowed to support, bud.

[–]veetnampho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yeah, like siding with commies makes you a libertarian right?

[–]soundsalad 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This guy is calling out OP for being an asshole and getting his facts wrong.

[–]BRAPking 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

was marching with BLM, gets killed, and this guy is trying to act like he had it coming or something?

yeah, he wasn't just "marching with BLM" and then got killed for no reason. The "shooter" (guy defending himself) was released earlier today - he did nothing wrong. Sounds like Garrett did have it coming. Perhaps pointing your rifle at people who are already being swarmed by angry idiots makes Garret a POS? Just a thought.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Where is the evidence that he pointed his rifle at the guy? So far the only thing I've seen is a photo that doesn't show anything, the only testimony I've seen claiming that he pointed the gun was from the guy who killed him when he was being questioned by police. Where is the actual evidence that the man who was killed pointed a gun at the man who killed him?

Also the timeline doesn't make sense. If he was already pointing his gun then how did that guy have time to draw it, aim, and fire it without the guy who already had a gun pointed having time to fire back? We know from testimony that Garrett never fired, it was first 5 shots from the guy in the car, then 3 shots later from a different person shooting at the car right after the fact.

[–]BRAPking 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Those are all good questions. But if the driver who was defending himself shot Garett for no reason, why was he released? Sure they're still investigating, but they would hold him if this shooting was suspicious. Could it be that there's additional evidence that only law enforcement has at this time? I would bet there is.

If he was already pointing his gun then how did that guy have time to draw it, aim, and fire it without the guy who already had a gun pointed having time to fire back?

I think it's more like he had it ready and low (as seen in that grainy photo - not aiming it, but up against his shoulder and down at 45 degrees, ready to fire) then may have pointed it. The driver probably had his firearm ready since he was already being harassed by the mass of angry people before Garrett ran up to the driver's window. Even if Garett hadn't pointed it directly at the driver, him holding it up to his shoulder and making any sort of movement could have been interpreted as such in the chaos of the angry mob who swarmed the car. At this point, it's already justified self-defense, no direct pointing required (yet still may have occurred)

He died because a crowd of people decided that cars aren't allowed on the road they claimed for themselves. They aggressively swarmed the car in a split second after he already stopped (to avoid hitting anyone) and then a guy with a gun ran up looking like he could shoot. Stupidity was the real killer.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

But if the driver who was defending himself shot Garett for no reason, why was he released?

As mentioned in the press conference, the driver and the other guy that fired at the driver's car were both detained and questioned by detectives, and released pending investigation. And it wouldn't be that he killed Garrett for no reason, but because he panicked when he saw a gun, even if it wasn't pointed at him.

And to be clear, because of the angles, I don't think he could have believed the gun was being pointed at him when it wasn't. Garrett had been going to these marches for several days now, and bringing his rifle with him. We know from other photos of him carrying that he keeps it with the stock by his right shoulder and the barrel down and to the left. Since he was walking up on the driver's side, the gun wouldn't be pointed anywhere near the driver.

The reason why it matters is when the driver was on the phone with police right after the shooting, the driver told police that he had drawn his weapon and shot Garrett because Garrett had pointed his rifle at him. If Garrett wasn't pointing his rifle at him, the guy was lying on the phone to make his case sound more sympathetic.

[–]america_first_1776[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]GConly 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Of all the dumb places to pull this.. Texas.

Red neck central where concealed carry is common is not the place to try to intimidate people by waving a gun about.

Sorry, not sorry Garrett.

So I watched the video... You can clearly hear five shots from a larger weapon (Garrett) and three pops from a handgun.

Proves Garrett shot first.

Edit: or not. Let's wait for the ballistics report.

[–]hennaojichan 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree but Austin, like Houston, is not red neck central nowadays. It's changed, like so many other things.

[–]var_machine 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm gonna chalk this one up as a Darwin Award.

[–]Feldheld 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This guy was obviously not very bright. Not bright enough at least to understand what the hate news media were doing to his mind. This death is at least 50% the media's doing.

[–]Dr_Bukkake 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The news reports were saying he attended many “peaceful” protests with his rifle. If you bring a rifle to a protest it is no longer peaceful.

[–]avena_sativa_3 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Why don't these mobs try deescalating in these situations and give people in cars space?

[–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they view everyone as an enemy, even their fellow rioters. It is a prime example of projection. They know for a fact they would happily stab anyone in the back and they assume everyone else will too.

[–]MakeAOCBartendAgain 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Good riddance! And good shootin'!!

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

if all BLMers carried guns we might be in trouble. Luckily most are too gay to and the ones that do like this guy don't know how to use it.

[–]jamesK_3rd 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The democrats and the left, like in all other facets of it's existence, uses the institutions as it's weapons.

Foolish fellows make statements about how the right has all the guns.

For example, most Cops now let rioters and mobs smash, loot and kill innocents just driving thru to work.. But it's certain they'll be at your door to arrest you at 8am if you try to open your business against your overlord's dictates that says your business isn't essential.

[–]DONKEYPUSSY 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

i am expecting this to end with a las vegas style shooting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFynly6jLSs

[–]peace_love_comfort 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Here's a video taken from the Mandalay Bay roof with the audio syncd and a shot counter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfXQbJ2g_XM

Terrifying stuff. I probably have a dream about an active shooter every other month or so. I never know what to do initially. My first thought is where are they at and is it safe to run. Try to listen for a break in the shooting and figure out what direction they're in. It's probably good that I replay it in my mind, so I am less inclined to panic in real life. It's still a crap shoot and so unfortunate that people do this shit. I feel like I have the most success by running away as soon as I can.

In the vegas situation. It seems to best to run away from the scene. Problem is the main exit was in his line of fire and he sprayed a lot of shots in that area. He sprayed the entire concert area but focused his fire towards the stage crowd and exit areas.

One thing I disagree with was the lighting. I need to watch a podcast from a lighting guy who discussed why they turned the flood lights on. It's a hot topic among people who follow the case as well. I vehemently disagree that the lights being turned on was helpful. I don't care why they turned them on or what procedure is. The flood lights being turned on resulted in the shooter being able to see targets clearer than if the lights were off. I don't understand what the issue is with feeling that way. It's simply true.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

seems weird, some guys are walking around like they don't give a shit. And you don't see any bullets hitting the dirt.

[–]peace_love_comfort 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can see people get hit and drop. Can also see a bullet strike one of the towers. I'd have to find the time stamps, probably in the comments. Bullets hitting the ground from that distance and lighting aren't going to be visible.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

"He was a Libertarian military veteran and witnesses said he was well-known among the activists participating in the protests in the city. Foster, 28, was shot dead while with his fiancee, Whitney Mitchell, a quadruple amputee who was in a wheelchair"

"People were getting out of the way and telling this gentleman to slow down and telling him to just stop driving because he was at risk of hitting someone...Police said the suspect drove into the protests and shot at Foster"

"Foster was known for doing outreach to the homeless in the city."

https://heavy.com/news/2020/07/garrett-foster/

[–]america_first_1776[S] 14 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 0 fun15 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

Lololol. "He Wuz gettin his life on track! He wuz feedin the homeless n sheeit!" The fact that his fiance is an amputee and gives to the homeless (so do I) doesn't make him any less of a violent retard for firing 5 shots of his rifle while a mob, that I assume contributed comments to this "article," surrounded the real victim's car.

[–]qbn 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

[–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Dude's a racist, I've tried arguing with him in the past. Thinks black people should be grateful for slavery because it brought them to America. No surprises with that username.

[–]Zahn 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

Calling people racist doesn't have the effect you would like to think it does.

[–]FediNetizen 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

You think I'm throwing the word racist around because I expect saiditers to shrivel up at the accusation or something? I'm not some west coast libtard living in a bubble, dude.

No. I'm saying the guy is a racist because, 1) he is, and 2) I'm pointing out he doesn't care about the facts because the man has an agenda.

[–]Zahn 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Slandering someone as a racist doesn't negate a premise. If you can't view your opponent with some modicum of humanity without resorting to slurs, you are then engaging in the same behavior you assume "racists" are guilty of.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Slandering someone as a racist

Slander? Way to not understand what words mean. Maybe you missed it the first time, so I'll repeat myself: I've had arguments with this guy before. It's a statement of fact based on prior experience. Or maybe you'd like to explain to me how this isn't racist. I'm all ears for this one.

[–]Zahn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Your original comment implied a sense of being dismissive because he is a just a "racist", replace that word with nigger or kike, then you and him are fundamentally behaving the same, just on an opposing spectrum.

[–]america_first_1776[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I love how this anti-white cuck went onto a post where a BLACK BLM SUPPORTER WAS LITERALLY KNEELING ON A BABY'S NECK just to troll white people who posted any kind of concern... then he goes around calling other people "racist."

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What determines whether or not you are a racist is your beliefs and behavior, and is entirely within your control. It's perfectly fair to make value judgements with regards to someone's character on that basis. That is in contrast to your ethnicity, which you can't control, and shouldn't be judged by.

And you are correct, I was being dismissive, because his is just a racist.

[–]qbn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And the guy who died is white. Insanity.

[–]america_first_1776[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Foster didn't even fire his rifle. The five shots were from the dumbass driving through a crowd of first amendment protestors and the three following were from another protestor.

But hey, why let facts get in the way of a good propaganda campaign? I'm going to remember you as the secret agent who broke the case wide open with your complete bullshit.

https://concealednation.org/2020/07/breaking-garrett-foster-likely-didnt-fire-gun-but-pointed-rifle-at-concealed-carrying-driver-who-did-fire/

[–]america_first_1776[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I edited my original comment. He still pointed the rifle at the driver.

[–]sudd3nclar1ty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You mean this photo where the rifle is pointed at the ground? I notice you have an issue with reality amigo.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8563675/Wheelchair-bound-fianc-e-slain-BLM-protester-leads-vigil-Austin.html

[–]america_first_1776[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just because the Daily Mail says it is, it doesn't mean it's true. It looks to be pointed towards the car. Why is he surrounding the car with the rifle in the first place?

[–]GConly 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People were getting out of the way and telling this gentleman to slow down and telling him to just stop driving because he was at risk of hitting

They told him he couldn't drive through because they had illegally blocked the street and started banging on his car when he tried to nose through, I'll put money on it.

I've seen other road blocks of this type and they always go apeshit and attack the car when someone ignores their orders and tried to drive through.

[–]avena_sativa_3 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

a quadruple amputee

hot.

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    [–]sudd3nclar1ty 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Watched both clips on redstatenation...ewww, anyways, the driver didn't stop while turning right against the light despite the obvious crowd, barriers and the flashing lights of cruisers. He started shooting within five seconds of being swarmed to stop before he killed more people. He was obviously terrified with zero situational awareness.

    Plowing into a peaceful march is a fair characterization. Assault with a deadly weapon is not an unreasonable assessment either and could justify the threat of using lethal force to stop the commission of a crime.

    If he drove into police like that, he'd be dead. The video can't be any more obvious.

    [–]Sw0rdofDam0cles 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    LOL