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[–]Cindy 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

This is pretty much the embodiment of saidit. Right now it is admittedly a lot of alt-righters and radical feminists, but as time goes on, more and more opinions will be pushed out of the mainstream, and all of a sudden this place will look very sane.

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"First they came for the sane, but I did not speak out; for I was not sane."

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    [–]Cindy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    To be clear my point is that much of saidit is alt-right or radical feminist. Two positions that are not necessarily insane but not exactly clear-minded either. It's because alt-righters and trans-critical radical feminists are currently the ones being pushed out of the mainstream. As time goes on, more "sane", or centrist, perspectives will not fit in the mainstream. These more-centrist people will (hopefully) move to saidit. At that point, saidit will look very "sane," or what reddit used to look like.

    [–]PencilPusher55 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    But I also think people are much more susceptible to reasoning with other sane people. Right? If you have a different opinion than me and act like a civilized human being - I'll take it much more seriously. If you're screaming, crying, and banning anyone who does not share the same opinion - it makes me double down on my original thought.

    [–]Cindy 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I used to think this way but radical people from every background seem to always justify their beliefs and treat evidence as nonsense. Try debating a /s/GenderCritical that prostitution is okay for society. Every salient point you bring to the table will be bitterly shot down, deflected, goalpost-moved, or made a mockery of. Try debating a far-right nationalist with the position that all ethnicities are more or less biologically equivalent. The proof is in the pudding, but the point will never get across.

    Maybe the best example: try to convince a theist that God doesn't exist. Your argument is impenetrable, but it just won't register in their mind. Political extremes are a lot like religions in this sense.

    [–]FarmerGD 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    So being a theist is now a radical, extremist position? Of course no theist would believe this argument. Religion is a fundamental part of human nature, and Christianity is but one of many. Atheism is technically a religion. If you lack belief in a higher power or life after death, then the prospect of dying would truly be terrifying. This reality of secular society is continuously ignored through the use of distractions, and this grinding migration away from religion in any shape clouds the truth of morality. If there is no base for what is right and wrong, how do you know which is which? If this benchmark is destroyed, the media and its elite funders can make the general populace into willing slaves, as they will never be taught that slavery is morally wrong and disgustingly unjust. This is already happening in American society, and I'm sure it isn't just us.

    [–]EuropeanAwakening 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Race denial. Hilarious. Tell me how Samual Morten's data is wrong? Tell me about time preference and average IQ differences between races. I think you are very confused, and if you think all races are the same you have most likely done not even a modicum of actual research into the topic.

    [–]Cindy 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    AFAIK that guy just proved differences in cranial dimensions. And he was mostly right. He didn't conduct thorough probing into actual intelligence. AFAIK there is a pretty standard difference in IQ across the board, and for certain populations (like poor Africans) we're not really able to have a clear indicator because of other factors, like lack of access to education, and even poor nutrition, home environments, etc.