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[–]PRSanon 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Disbanding some units probably would have had some small effect, but the increase must be largely due to the rioting and high tensions that are going on.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You don't see the cause and effect relationship on display here? You're going to claim with no proof, an alternative explanation that you made up yourself?

[–]rdh2121 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

It's kinda hilarious that the article you cite is only pointing out correlation, not causation, yet you go off on another user because their cause-and-effect hypothesis doesn't agree with your cause-and-effect hypothesis.

How about you show me your proof that this is due to the unit disbanding first.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Stay with me here: anti-crime units disbanded. Crime skyrockets. Huh, any causation there? No, must be something else!

YOU present evidence of the conspiracy theory.

[–]rdh2121 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So... no evidence whatsoever. Why am I not surprised?

Let's see what makes more sense:
1. criminals are spending all of their time closely following the status of random government agencies so that they can all get together and agree to start shooting people after one small agency is disbanded
OR
2. There have been high-profile, high-tension protests going on for weeks, so violence has been higher recently.

I wonder what would happen if we compare the shootings this week with the shooting numbers earlier this month, instead of with shooting numbers from last year. Source

How about that! 40 shootings per week for the first three weeks of this month.

How does it feel to be proven completely wrong, and caught in your fearmongering, pro-cop propaganda?

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What makes more sense: A cop unit tasked with stopping specfic type of crime is disbanded at the demand of anti-cop protesters. That kind of crime then skyrockets.

  1. There have been high-profile, high-tension protests going on for weeks, so violence has been higher recently.

I don't follow. Why would violence be higher recently? Police have been scaling back their efforts, and police are the primary cause of violence. So the violence should be greatly decreasing, not increasing. You're arguing against yourself, and losing.

Violence is highly seasonal, and can be directly correlated to things like the outside temperature. That's why crime is compared to what happened the previous year. This is well-known; you're telling me this is news to you?

These are the same NYC cops who, when everyone was running away from the flaming World Trade Center, ran towards it. Why am I not surprised they're being shit on?

[–]rdh2121 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There's so much crazy here I almost don't know where to start.

police are the primary cause of violence

This is you putting words in my mouth.

Police have been scaling back their efforts

This is completely incorrect, as the complete sham of the police budget "reductions" over the past couple of days show.

Violence is highly seasonal, and can be directly correlated to things like the outside temperature. That's why crime is compared to what happened the previous year. This is well-known; you're telling me this is news to you?

And I'm the conspiracy theorist. Also, I thought the rise in violent crime was due to the disbanding of the anti-crime units? yOu'Re aRgUiNg AgAiNsT yOuRsElF, aNd LoSiNg.

These are the same NYC cops who, when everyone was running away from the flaming World Trade Center, ran towards it.

Yay, they did their jobs once.

Why am I not surprised they're being shit on?

Because you're aware of how militarization of police and police brutality have gotten to the breaking point, so you're rightfully shitting on them along with every other reasonable person?

Your propaganda isn't gonna work here bub. Your arguments are as transparent as your motives.