Sweden Resisted Suicidal Economic Lockdown – Now Stockholm Expected to Reach “Herd Immunity” in Weeks

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[–]Nemacolin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

USA 151 deaths per million population. Sweden? 200 deaths per million. (So far 200 dead Swedes, and as you said weeks to go until it ends.)

So Sweden is suffering a death rate 33% higher than the US. If we followed the Swedish example instead of 50,000 dead we would have 67,000 dead.... and in "weeks" we would reach "herd immunity!" That is to say tens of thousands more would be dead. What a great plan!

But wait, there's more. Sweden has an advanced health-care system. In Sweden you can stay home with pay if you or a family member is sick. We can guess you are more likely to walk out of a Swedish hospital than an American one. So add another (let's guess) ten percent dead to the Swedish model if applied to the US.

Yessir, letting the old, poor, and weak die off sure would work! Except for all the dead people it is a great idea.

[–]beermeem 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

SHILL

[–]Nemacolin 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah. I am being paid by the Swedes. I get fifty thousand cronkites for each post.

[–]Desdinova 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe you can use your Cronkites to vacation at the Schmatterhorn.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

An excellent catch of the cultural reference.

[–]definitelyanewuser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

It's only 200 deaths per million?

So, 200/1000000 = 0.2%? So, like the flu? I feel bad for all the people and their family of the deceased, but.. those rates hardly warrant these strict measures.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Cool. How many Americans are you willing to let die?

[–]astronautrob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Love this virtue signalling canned response once the numbers get brought up. The pro Coronavirus argument always degrades in to something resembling this canned response. How many Americans are you going to let die from smoking, drinking, obesity, poverty, hunger, car crashes, etc., etc. See that argument breaks down when you start looking at other preventable causes of death. Are we going to shut the country down because of suicides? No we aren't. Why? Because that won't frighten a whole population in to self confinement. It doesn't benefit the establishment. Did you know the richest 500 people have seen their wealth increase over 20% since this has started? Rich are getting richer and the corporations got a bigger bail out than it 2009 under Obama. Its sick and sad all at the same time. Lambs leading themselves to the slaughter.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good night.

[–]astronautrob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sweet dreams my friend.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Nemacolin, Sweden rolled the dice with its own population. It can't help but cross my mind that the Swedish politicians looked at the likely demographic of those who would die and thought, "those are the people we hate anyway...".

The same kind of ignorant denial vis-a-vis the reality of this cornona virus is (predictably) going on over at s/conspiracy where "empty hospital beds" and a hot mic are being accepted as hard evidence of a "hoax".

[–]Nemacolin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I cannot imagine why you would think the Swedish government decided to kill off "people we hate anyway." Who the heck do you think the Swedes hate?

[–]MostlySunnySkies 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The Swedes, like most progressive-leaning nations,including Britain, see the elderly as reservoirs of regressive attitudes and beliefs.

https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/04/swedish-minister-says-the-countrys-elderly-are-the-problem-and-not-refugees/#.WuTvwRN2oeY.twitter

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/swedens-minister-of-social-affairs-claims-countrys-elderly-not-muslim-migrants-are-the-big-problem

They are predictably being differentially effected by the virus, yet still given short shrift in terms of available resources :

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/19/anger-in-sweden-as-elderly-pay-price-for-coronavirus-strategy

https://nyheteridag.se/plus/papperslosa-kan-prioriteras-i-coronavarden-fore-svenska-medborgare/

in favor of immigrants, and that is official policy:

https://voiceofeurope.com/2020/04/sweden-elderly-should-not-be-prioritized-for-intensive-care-in-a-crisis/

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/04/swedens-minister-of-social-affairs-claims-countrys-elderly-not-muslim-migrants-are-the-big-problem

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If we had Saidit gold you'd get it for that post

[–]MostlySunnySkies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/24/franklin-graham/fact-checking-swedens-covid-infection-rate-without/

"The recorded infection rate depends hugely on the number of tests performed and what indications for testing that are used," Tegnell, the director of the Swedish Public Health Agency, told PolitiFact. "In other words, an unreliable measure."

Asked if Sweden’s strategy has been effective, Tegnell told us: "Partly, to the extent that the health system managed the challenge and that there are always free beds. Not so well in protecting the elderly." "

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How very delusional.

[–]Tom9152 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The lock down could kill more than the virus. Farmers are killing their herds and dumping milk.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

pretty sure the divorce and suicide rate will surpase the numbers of deaths faked due to the Kung Flu in the US.. ( I got banned from reddit recently by a powermod piece of shit that said me saying Kung flu was bigoted and raciss)

and then when I enquired on it.. I was extrted by them saying well we can reverse the permantant ban if you recognize Kung Flu as raciss, so i told them to go fuckthemselves and delted my account after 5 years with 150K karma. no Im here. I do have screenshots of this fuckhead mod extorting me for an unban to conform to their beliefs

[–]HiddenFox 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Kung flu is not racist....Wuhan weisser still okay... the Ping-Pong Ching-Chong Wing Wong sweet and sour sickness.... that might be a litte racist...... but if you say it in jest people will understand....

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LMAO!!!!! that last one made me spit my beer out.. thank you for making my day..

♫ching chong.. wannawanna ding dong♫ !@ !!!!!!!!!

[–]Tigerbitecrazy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Site your source or gtfo with that propaganda

[–]definitelyanewuser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

how is the economic crash propaganda, and the virus not?

maybe everything is propaganda, some of it benefits the rich more

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

i could believe farmers kill herds and dump milk, just cuz they do that kind of stuff anyways. We actually pay farmers not to farm. The govt I mean does. Because they don't want food being too cheap. If food is too cheap, then farmers have no incentive to produce it, then they don't and you have shortages. Farmers often threaten this kind of stuff, they have organizations they are in to agree to do this and play hardball for welfare money from govt. Last week trump announced a $19 billion economic package for farmers.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

How the approach taken in Sweden works out has yet to be seen. Here are the facts so far:

On March 4, 2020 there were 1,000 Swedes infected with COVID-19 https://www.thelocal.se/20200228/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-coronavirus-in-sweden

Three weeks later, on March 30, the number had tripled to 3,000 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/catastrophe-sweden-coronavirus-stoicism-lockdown-europe

Sweden Corona Virus cases as of April 23 , 2002: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

16,755 total cases 2,021 deaths 550 recoveries

2021 / 16,755 = 0.1206 or 12% death rate

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Fauci already said the death rate will not exceed 1%.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Thanks for that. Do you have a link?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

he might mean of entire USA population, fauci said he thinks 100,000 to 200,000 people will die, that is less than 1% of all americans. Not a great stat tho.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

beermeem doesn't believe the virus exists: https://saidit.net/s/news/comments/3zla/sweden_resisted_suicidal_economic_lockdown_now/elh0

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so why does he quote fauci and less than 1% dying from something that doesn't "exist". poor logic.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Neither the virus nor herd immunity exist.

[–]definitelyanewuser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

or both do nearly everwhere

[–]RickC-137[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't think it exists as they say it exists, but what is putting people on vents? I know one..

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

it definitely exists people. Now if we are thinking of conspiracy theories about it I would focus on how it was released from a Wuhan lab.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly. Except it's not really a conspiracy, more like a reasonable, working hypothesis.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/state-department-cables-wuhan-virology-lab

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/us-officials-sounded-alarm-about-wuhan-lab-years-before-coronavirus-outbreak

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7996817/China-hid-tortured-political-prisoner-coronavirus-quarantine-facility.html

https://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/east/04/18/sars.china/ (not that CNN is real news)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

true it is well known really but media wasnts to not mention it much because they're worried about people being mad at china and they have financial ties to them

[–]RickC-137[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Nobody said it doesn't exist (even if they did they were disinformation smeartards). The way it has been reported has been questionable at best. Even the person who discovered HIV said the Wuhan virus was made in a lab.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

mny said tht such as trump at first