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[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Utter nonsense and mindless fictional talking points.

Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc. are all great socialist success stories. The army, navy, marines, airforce, spaceforce, NASA, NSA, FEMA, FBI, CIA, etc. and all the police states you've got are also evidence of thriving socialism. Your corrupt healthcare system, the only one NOT socialized in the first world, is a disgusting predatory capitalist failure.

Cuba has survived well despite crippling sanctions for decades, and have some of the finest medical schools in the world, not to mention superior farming techniques, due in part to not depending on oil and oil-based products like fertilizers, since they've been externally restricted.

Further, socialism for the wealthy seems to be a bad habit of the USA, bailing out the banksters but not the people in 2008 and now again to absurdist levels. They are too big to fail, meaning you are too small to succeed in their capitalist system.

[–]0rion 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Canada, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc. are all great socialist success stories.

None of those are socialist countries. It's funny how socialists have no societies that are successful so they have to call successful capitalist countries with even less market regulations (with large social welfare systems) "socialist".

The army, navy, marines, airforce, spaceforce, NASA, NSA, FEMA, FBI, CIA, etc. and all the police states you've got are also evidence of thriving socialism.

This is proof that your definition of socialism boils down to "when the government does something", proving that you are retarded. Go back and read Marx.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

I live in Canada. We are socialist. And capitalist. My aunt believes we were more socialist in the 1970s, but I'd argue that we are and aren't - simultaneously. Some things are and some aren't.

All those countries are socialist and more. None are communist. They are NOT the same.

The USA is capitalist AND socialist. All of the government, military, police, fire departments, roads, BLM, FBI, NSA, FDA, etc etc etc are FUNDED in whole or in part by tax-payers - a fundamentally socialist system. (The CIA too, but they also get their dirty money from selling drugs and such.)

I'm very familiar with Marx.

When the government wages war - that's not socialism.

When the government takes and redistributes - that's socialism.

(When it does it unfairly that's capitalism and communism.)

There is a difference.

[–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Do you take drugs, Jason?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Can't afford them. Clearly you do. Any to spare?

[–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're supposed to say, "every day."

Then I say, "good."

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL