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[–]jamesK_3rd 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

If you're still using YouTube, you clearly don't hate it that much. You just wanna bitch and moan or self loathe and self pity about it.

On top of that, YouTube isn't actively deleting videos. It's demonetizing them and removing then from top results in search.

No you don't have the right to make a living off YouTube ads.

Use an alternate platform, or grab some open source software and create your own.

[–]Drewski 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Yeah, don't help the beast by feeding it your content. If you have to watch something on Youtube, you can use Invidious.

[–]danuker 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How is Invidious any better?

There is also Bitchute, D.tube, and maybe others. They all feature centralized access points, no different in vulnerability to censorship.

If I were to choose where people move next, I'd go for Diaspora, Freenet, or some bittorrent-like protocol with dedicated client apps, crypto accounts and comment sections.

[–]mikipika 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've been using invidious and wish more people would. Then more content will originate there and it's bye-bye youtube.

[–]SierraKiloBravo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Something I have wondered: If someone watches a video on Invidious, does that view count on the creator's video viewcount on YT?

[–]mikipika 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wondered the same thing. My dislike of what youtube is doing to creators of content is enough to make me overlook any guilt I feel about not giving my views to those whose efforts I admire. Let them ditch youtube and post on invidious so we can finally forget youtube.

[–]m68k 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Totally agree, I still don't get why people think making videos for Youtube is a "job". Google did not hire them, and they get no benefits. :P

Sure someone can live off of Youtube revenue, but they're only riding the high wave, which will crash at some point.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

YouTube is a job. They can fire people from their jobs at a whim. It's not as simple as "create your own platform". People have tried only to be attacked and destroyed.

[–]jamesK_3rd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Really? Because saidit exists in the shadow of reddit, which was originally FOSS. It's no behemoth, but it started small and it's growing.

Unless you signed a contract and you're getting a W2 from YouTube and not some ad agency, that's not a job, it's a hobby that until recently allowed for a symbiotic relationship. Greed is as greed does though.

No one said it would be easy. However, Unless someone is directly paying you for your work, not some ad agency money funneling scheme, what you are is an enthusiast who's managed to get while the getting was good.

The web was designed originally for sharing & not necessarily commercial monetization, that's one of the main reasons it's inherently insecure by design. It's also one of the main reasons that everyone wants to curtail it, through net neutrality, through govt picking which tech giants win or lose, through free speech regulation and on and on..

You can literally create you're own vlogs on your device and host them on a computer stuffed in your closet. That's freedom to say whatever you want. Criticizing your govt or showing hours of cat videos. You Might not make a living doing it though, but that's life.

If you make good content the eyeballs will come eventually and somebody will pay you to say an ad for them In your video. If your shit is hosted at YouTube and not in your closet, you must play by their rules. Or you must get enough of your friends and followers to leave & make it worth their time to change their policies.

But they're gambling that you won't. For now they're right. But Myspace was king until it wasn't. When enough ppl get fed up with it, a new one will come (Unless these tech giants manage to get our politicians to stifle any competition which i think they've got a pretty good shot at doing.)

YouTube does post it's jobs; developers, marketers, managers, admins, customer service, custodians, and groundskeepers to name a few. If you're a "content creator", you aren't an employee, you're a user who's an enthusiast about something.

[–]jamesK_3rd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not insulting content creators by the way. There are some brilliant minds on there. Many of them are literally subject matter experts about a topic(s) or have amazing charisma.

But most of the time, They're doing something not for commercial reasons. Sometimes it's to hone their skills about a topic, or they like to teach, or They're using it as a platform to display their talent or they're using it as volunteer hours, or just to show off.

I too think YouTube is garbage for these policies. I think it's a bit like phase 4 of the MCU, where they essentially say yeh we made so much money we could care less about you any longer.. In fact, from now on, every feature film has to have a SJW theme, and by the way, some of your comic book heroes are undergoing gender transition, and you're a bigot if you say you don't like it.

I really do think it's a case that YouTube thinks it's so dominant and ubiquitous that it can dictate such terms to it's users.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Get a grip, posting videos on YouTube is indeed a job. And when your employer fires you for no reason, it's a big problem.

Saying people should host their own videos is total stupidity, but you knew that already.

[–]jamesK_3rd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Pick another platform, host your own, or abide by their rules.

And if you really believe YouTube is your employer head on down to the unemployment office and collect that big unemployment check since you got canned...

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Unemployment insurance only applies if you get laid off, but you knew that.

You're a really shitty arguer.

[–]jamesK_3rd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Check the fired for cause vs termination at will. https://www.thebalancecareers.com/can-i-collect-unemployment-if-i-am-fired-2064150

There's some gray area for sure for your case, it's also state based.

I think it's a matter of what YouTube told you when they let you go. Unemployment will help you sort it out though, and what's more you'll set world wide trend if you're successful.

I mean, if you really believe what you wrote, stop clamoring for govt assistance via regulations and take them to court for wrongful termination. At that point, we can literally add "content creator" to the list of jobs above that YouTube has.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You're the worst arguer ever. How can you spend so many keystrokes on bad faith arguments? What went wrong in your life where you are doing this?

[–]jamesK_3rd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're attacking me, not my arguments.

You're a really shitty arguer. You're the worst arguer ever. What went wrong in your life where you are doing this?

I'm actually trying to help you out.

I mean, did you call HR and discuss being fired with them? How about your first line supervisor? Manager? You've got a legit case.... Haul their ass to court for wrongful termination....

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're arguing a false premise, and you know it.

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Still could access this video in EU
Corona Virus - The Pharma Pandemic
It is very critical on the "science" around the corona virus.
I wonder if this has been blocked in the US.

Summary here on Saidit

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also just Vitamin C

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

LOVE THE WORLD

HATE THE PLAYER NOT THE GAME

MANIPULATE BACK

[–]m0xyy 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

wow companies regulate their own businesses, muh 1st amendment!!!! freeze peesh!!

fucking to to bitchute

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

YouToo

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

PJW has an ad under his Corona video, and Im pretty sure hes not propaganda