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[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I'm still waiting for the predictions from Al Gore's "An inconvenient truth" to come to fruition.

[–]useless_aether 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

al gore is working on it hard, with his wasteful lifestyle, but even that is not enough.

[–]RatherSmallPotato 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He still hasn't sold his beach property.

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      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      So only a couple more days until Britain will become Siberian, nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will all erupt across the world? Better donate, that sounds awful!

      edit: did it happen yet?

      p.s. if you're reading this, happy 2020 :)

      repost this or else.

      [–]kokolokoNightcrawler 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Thanks OP, I bookmark this to cognitive dissonance the fuck out of NPCs...

      Also, check out the fear porn in recommended list right under this 15 yr old article. Seems like this time it's 2050 the end of the world for real real! https://imgur.com/3PUNBsE

      [–]thefadd 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

      Thanks for the 15+ year old article dipshit. Tell me again how this isn’t banable under the “pyramid of debate”?

      [–]Chipit[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The point is that these predictions were made 15 years ago. Have the come true?

      What do we call a theory that makes invalid predictions?

      [–]sproketboy 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      LOL check out the triggered.

      [–]RatherSmallPotato 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Did you miss the tonality of the post? If climate scientists make bold predictions decades in advance, their predictions can be critiqued after those decades have passed.

      [–]Vigte 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Why not, they're the ones jumping up and down insisting it's all true and we're all going to die and blaming everyone for not doing anything.

      They asked for it.

      Same applies to Alex Jones for his Y2K meltdown, guy should have been run out of town for lying and causing a panic.

      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      it's not the triggered of debate bro

      [–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      As long as it kills environmentalists I'm fine with it.

      [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Article is 15 years old... Also, I'm back for a few more posts

      I'll psot some longer posts, that I've saved but then I'm done.


      Climate change over the next 20 years could result in a global catastrophe costing millions of lives in wars and natural disasters.

      It might but it will be because of a most convenient false flag. 1988, January 1-19 we were told to be ready for world currency, either 2020 or 2021 of this date would be a convenient time period in which they could stage some event as there predictive programming has suggested.

      A secret report, suppressed by US defence chiefs and obtained by The Observer, warns that major European cities will be sunk beneath rising seas as Britain is plunged into a 'Siberian' climate by 2020. Nuclear conflict, mega-droughts, famine and widespread rioting will erupt across the world.

      LMFAO, alarmist much. If anything nuclear war would be the deciding factor.

      The document predicts that abrupt climate change could bring the planet to the edge of anarchy as countries develop a nuclear threat to defend and secure dwindling food, water and energy supplies. The threat to global stability vastly eclipses that of terrorism, say the few experts privy to its contents.

      An economic collapse, likely planned would cause this, not climate change.

      'Disruption and conflict will be endemic features of life,' concludes the Pentagon analysis. 'Once again, warfare would define human life.'

      Not because of climate change.

      The findings will prove humiliating to the Bush administration, which has repeatedly denied that climate change even exists. Experts said that they will also make unsettling reading for a President who has insisted national defence is a priority.

      Non Sequitur by the wording alone. Climate changes, there's no doubting that. So, to say someone denies climate change is a fallacy, for then that person is denying the historical data that cliamte changes everyday.

      The report was commissioned by influential Pentagon defence adviser Andrew Marshall, who has held considerable sway on US military thinking over the past three decades. He was the man behind a sweeping recent review aimed at transforming the American military under Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Marshall_(foreign_policy_strategist)

      Marshall joined the RAND Corporation, a large polluter, the original "think tank," at the behest of mentor W. Allen Wallis in 1949. While he would briefly return to academia to cover Wallis's courses during the 1953-1954 term and continued to take statistics courses at George Washington University, Marshall soon gained the cachet of being part of "a cadre of strategic thinkers" that coalesced at the RAND Corporation in the 1950s and 1960s, a group that also included Charles J. Hitch, Herman Kahn, James Schlesinger and Daniel Ellsberg. Notably, he worked with Kahn on developing and advancing Monte Carlo methods.

      Schlesinger would later become the U.S. Secretary of Defense and personally oversaw the creation of the Office of Net Assessment. The original main task of the office was to provide strategic evaluations on nuclear war issues. James Roche, Secretary of the Air Force in the administration of George W. Bush, worked for Marshall during the 1970s.[9]

      Andrew Marshall was consulted for the 1992 draft of Defense Planning Guidance (DPG), created by then-Defense Department staffers I. Lewis Libby, Paul Wolfowitz, and Zalmay Khalilzad; all of whom took to influential roles in the administration of George W. Bush.[10] We studied RMA exhaustively. Our great hero was Andy Marshall in the Pentagon. We translated every word he wrote. - General Chen Zhou, PLA[11]

      Marshall has been noted for fostering talent in younger associates, who then proceed to influential positions in and out of the federal government: "a slew of Marshall's former staffers have gone on to industry, academia and military think tanks."[12] Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and Wolfowitz, among others, have been cited as Marshall "star protégés."[13]

      House Armed Services Committee ranking member Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-TX) announced his death during a hearing.

      Yes, Mac Thornberry the Republican that created that bill revoking the Smith Mundt Act of 1948 and replacing it with the SMith Mundt Modernization act of 2012, thus legalizing PSYOPs. If anything this entire story could be a PSYOP. He worked for the RAND Corp. afterall.


      Climate change 'should be elevated beyond a scientific debate to a US national security concern', say the authors, Peter Schwartz, CIA consultant and former head of planning at Royal Dutch/Shell Group, and Doug Randall of the California-based Global Business Network.

      Yes, because when it comes to anything, National Security trumps Science. That's also what they say about our freedom, privacy and liberty. /s See what they're doing here?

      Sir John Houghton, former chief executive of the Meteorological Office - and the first senior figure to liken the threat of climate change to that of terrorism - said: 'If the Pentagon is sending out that sort of message, then this is an important document indeed.'

      Bob Watson, chief scientist for the World Bank and former chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, added that the Pentagon's dire warnings could no longer be ignored.

      'Can Bush ignore the Pentagon? It's going be hard to blow off this sort of document. Its hugely embarrassing. After all, Bush's single highest priority is national defence. The Pentagon is no wacko, liberal group, generally speaking it is conservative. If climate change is a threat to national security and the economy, then he has to act. There are two groups the Bush Administration tend to listen to, the oil lobby and the Pentagon,' added Watson.

      It's obvious that they are trying to make it seem like Bush is working against the Pentagon. All this does is allow an issue of not to become a national security threat and thus more control for them.

      Randall told The Observer that the potential ramifications of rapid climate change would create global chaos. 'This is depressing stuff,' he said. 'It is a national security threat that is unique because there is no enemy to point your guns at and we have no control over the threat.'

      'The consequences for some nations of the climate change are unbelievable. It seems obvious that cutting the use of fossil fuels would be worthwhile.'

      I agree with that notion, a transition to cleaner alternatives, but not monopolized by well placed scum. But again, what's wrong with this suggestion, nothing really, but when you compare it tothe alarmist propaganda of the Pentagon it seems fair to conclude they are conducting some sort of reverse psycology operation.

      So dramatic are the report's scenarios, Watson said, that they may prove vital in the US elections. Democratic frontrunner John Kerry is known to accept climate change as a real problem. Scientists disillusioned with Bush's stance are threatening to make sure Kerry uses the Pentagon report in his campaign.

      The fact that Marshall is behind its scathing findings will aid Kerry's cause. Marshall, 82, is a Pentagon legend who heads a secretive think-tank dedicated to weighing risks to national security called the Office of Net Assessment. Dubbed 'Yoda' by Pentagon insiders who respect his vast experience, he is credited with being behind the Department of Defence's push on ballistic-missile defence.

      Symons, who left the EPA in protest at political interference, said that the suppression of the report was a further instance of the White House trying to bury evidence of climate change. 'It is yet another example of why this government should stop burying its head in the sand on this issue.'

      Symons said the Bush administration's close links to high-powered energy and oil companies was vital in understanding why climate change was received sceptically in the Oval Office. 'This administration is ignoring the evidence in order to placate a handful of large energy and oil companies,' he added.

      Funny, that the man who created the report also has ties to oil companies and companies that are some of the biggest polluters in the world.

      [–]DffrntDrmmr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Time to party like it's 2019.

      [–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Addition from 1970s: Earth will be freezing cold.
      Sadly not available on the internetz.

      Science Is The Belief In The Ignorance Of The Experts

      [–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Actually I have something about that saved on my PC. But I'm on mobile. Tragedy, really.

      [–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      "Earth Day" 1970 Kenneth Watt, ecologist: "The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age."

      "The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won't be there. The trees in the median strip will change....There will be more police cars....[since] you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up." Dr. James Hansen, 1988, in an interview with author Rob Reiss. Reiss asked how the greenhouse effect was likely to affect the neighborhood below Hansen's office in NYC in the next 20 years.

      June 30, 1989, Associated Press: U.N. OFFICIAL PREDICTS DISASTER, SAYS GREENHOUSE EFFECT COULD WIPE SOME NATIONS OFF MAP- entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ‘eco-refugees,' threatening political chaos," said Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program. He added that governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect.

      "Winters with strong frost and lots of snow like we had 20 years ago will cease to exist at our latitudes." Mojib Latif, Max Planck Institute for Meteorology, Hamburg, 1 April 2000.

      January 2000 Dr. Michael Oppenheimer of the Environmental Defense Fund commenting (in a NY Times interview) on the mild winters in New York City: "But it does not take a scientist to size up the effects of snowless winters on the children too young to remember the record-setting blizzards of 1996. For them, the pleasures of sledding and snowball fights are as out-of-date as hoop-rolling, and the delight of a snow day off from school is unknown."