Stopping the flow of California emigrants

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[–]jamesK_3rd[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There need to be more states that embrace federalism and look at ways to impede emigrants from states such as California, Colorado, Illinois, New York, or any blue state really.

What are ways to stem the flow of these individuals from certain states? I don't know, but here are a fewI've thought of.

  • Maybe using tax schemes, would it be possible to require an incoming citizen to pay tax to both their previous state as well as their new state, for short period, say like 5 to 10 years.

  • an easy one is to prevent emigrants from owning land until they've reached some milestone. This is used and is fairly effective in Hawaii, where outsiders may buy a place but not actually own the land. Instead you generally own like a XX year lease on the building, but you don't retain title unless you are in a certain ethnic group. Land or housing would be the most effective, but you could also do it with other entitlements such as: -- welfare -- voting -- firearms or firearms permits -- driving, working permits

I'm still brainstorming. But i cringe every time i hear someone complain about the state not giving them something and then complaining about the size of government or thinking they should move.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Maybe there's so many emigrants, because of the fact there's so many immigrants. Both from other countries, and from other parts of America.

Everyone got hooked on the idea of the California dream, and now it's horrifically overpopulated, and the government is a mess of over-regulation.

[–]jamesK_3rd[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree. California geographically is massive. It isn't overpopulated. There are ALOT of places in the state where you can go and not see anyone. Further inland yes, Further north yes. But it's There.

California seems ridiculously packed because bad governance. Artificially increasing housing prices by protecting special groups and inhibiting construction. Compound this Further by leftist policies that say it's cool if you camp out on the bike trail, in fact we won't even prosecute you if you wanna defecate anywhere you feel like.

So you can't find an affordable place, but screw it, just buy a Honda Odessa mini van and crash on the street with everyone's else.

I'm not speaking about immigrants from other countries. Ironically, i tend to think they carry more of the American dream than many Daca recipients or native born 🇺🇸 citizens. I'm speaking specifically about the mass exodus from states like California, Illinois and New York.

Many of them will claim to be some kind of libertarian or "fiscal conservative, social liberal". It's garbage. When you ask them how their state got so bad, they'll look at you as a deer in headlights, or spout some nonsense about democrats. No dude, it's you. Take your shit back there and keep voting for your Medicaid expansion and more money for government schools there.

Ironically enough, Reagan hosed California. His Amnesty Bill demolished a moderately centered California. After that Amnesty deal, California has been decidedly and remarkably blue ever since. I think that's about to happen on a national scale once Trump amnesties all the Daca kids.

I'm all in for immigrants. But you can't give them welfare.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Barriers to people living where they like are evil and make us all poorer.