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[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Maybe 99% of the 'trained' historians are holocaust supporters because it's literally illegal to say anything else in 11 countries? There are laws that literally throw people in jail for researching, investigating or popularizing evidence to the contrary.

I already wrote that in my previous reply though. It's almost like you're not really engaging in anything I'm sending you. Typical shill/bad faith debater behavior.

[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

because it's literally illegal to say anything else in 11 countries.

Even if that was true, then in about 185 countries you can deny the holocaust and yet almost all "trained" historians think your position is totally laughable, to say the least.

But I'm not going to assume that's true. Yes there's a few countries that have laws against flying nazi/genocide flags. Yes in germany you can't endorse naziism, and maybe a few more but I'm not going to assume it's 11.

Maybe 99% of the 'trained' historians are holocaust supporters

The language you're using is not honest- they're not "supporters" because they recognize a historic event.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Even if that was true, then in about 185 countries you can deny the holocaust and yet almost all "trained" historians think your position is totally laughable, to say the least.

LOL. DuckDuckGo world opinion on the holocaust. You'll find that revisionism is the norm. The only nations that buy the holohoax are nations with Jews all over media, academics, and government structures. Also nations where Jews have shoved the holocaust into younger and younger educational structures and built holohoax conditioning centers called 'holocaust museums.'

The language you're using is not honest- they're not "supporters" because they recognize a historic event.

Stop projecting Moshe

The more I debated with them the more familiar I became with their argumentative tactics. At the outset they counted upon the stupidity of their opponents, but when they got so entangled that they could not find a way out they played the trick of acting as innocent simpletons. Should they fail, in spite of their tricks of logic, they acted as if they could not understand the counter arguments and bolted away to another field of discussion. They would lay down truisms and platitudes; and, if you accepted these, then they were applied to other problems and matters of an essentially different nature from the original theme. If you faced them with this point they would escape again, and you could not bring them to make any precise statement. Whenever one tried to get a firm grip on any of these apostles one’s hand grasped only jelly and slime which slipped through the fingers and combined again into a solid mass a moment afterwards. If your adversary felt forced to give in to your argument, on account of the observers present, and if you then thought that at last you had gained ground, a surprise was in store for you on the following day. The Jew would be utterly oblivious to what had happened the day before, and he would start once again by repeating his former absurdities, as if nothing had happened. Should you become indignant and remind him of yesterday’s defeat, he pretended astonishment and could not remember anything, except that on the previous day he had proved that his statements were correct. Sometimes I was dumbfounded. I do not know what amazed me the more – the abundance of their verbiage or the artful way in which they dressed up their falsehoods. I gradually came to hate them.

[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

LOL. DuckDuckGo world opinion on the holocaust.

Even if that was true, that ("What's popular is true") is a logical fallacy and irrelevant. Assertions are valid based on evidence and how reasonable they are.

And I have already given examples over & over again. As I said earlier, you either have honesty or you don't.

Btw, you're spinning:

  • "Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. Muslims followed closely... In no coincidence, Hindus and Muslims were also significantly less likely to have heard of the Holocaust."

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/05/the-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

There's a lot of ignorant people and that is not evidence for holocaust denial.