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[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

You started off with a lie, twisting my words.

I said I read a significant amount of the post- I debunked part and scrolled over the rest seeing nothing but unfounded assumptions and evidenceless assertions.

I have already explained (in my various comments in this thread) how everything you just said is wrong and there is clear and absolute evidence of a genocide.

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No, you scanned over the post and found a quote that I debunked to then debunk it again. After that you just assumed everything else was wrong just because.

Be specific. You havn't read anything. Your cognitive dissonace is showing. The genocide existed but the Holocaust, or burnt offering did not. The amount of Jews who died and I and revisionists who exhaustinly researched all the camps and consenus data cam away with 2.5 million. Not 6 million which has no basis in reality. I explained why, also, the 2.5 million figure. 600,000 - 1,000,000 were murderer in a genocidal campaign. 4.5 million were not gassed in one concentration camp. If they were able to propgandize this figure for thirty years only to succumb to revisionists facts and figures, maybe they wouldn't have to fear an investigation. Revisionists are not fond of facism or what the Nazis did, but then again, you claim anyone who questions the 6 million figure is a nazi, so.

Also, you never debunked anything, you just post the offical account or a few anecdotal accounts to prove your slippery slope argument.

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Again, I debunked everything these internet neo-nazis believe. eg here's some. Your long posts of evidenceless assertions are irrelevant.

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The Korherr Report Part 5 /u/Anticapitalist /u/send_nasty_stuff /u/zahn Start on Part 1

The source anticapitalist links is a liar and fabricator. He should not be trusted. Nonetheless, his testimony has largely been discredited, but Israeli News certainly doesn't think so. Hoetll is a spy and a very sahdy individual who has lied for money many times.


At the beginning of 1943 SS chief Heinrich Himmler ordered his “Inspector for Statistics,” Richard Korherr, to prepare a report on the “Final Solution of the European Jewish Question.” Relying for the most part on information and figures supplied by the Reich Security Main Office, Korherr wrote a sixteen-page statistical survey that he submitted to Himmler on March 23, 1943. A few weeks later he produced a shorter supplemental version with the same title.

Even though, as Hilberg has pointed out, much about these reports, including their origin and purpose, “remains obscure,” they are nevertheless the most authoritative wartime statistical records available on the fate of Europe’s Jews.

These top level, secret German documents contain no mention of an extermination program or mass killings of Jews, a fact that seems hardly possible if such a program had existed.

Furthermore, as Jewish historian Gerald Reitlinger noted, they suggest that nothing like six million Jews could have been killed, even assuming the most sinister interpretations of the data.

Korherr, a staunch Catholic, declared after the war that he had not been aware that his reports had any sinister or murderous significance.

Jewish Restitution Claims Another important indication that the Six Million figure is not accurate is the large number of Jewish “Holocaust survivors” who have received restitution payments (Wiedergutmachung) from the German government in Bonn and, more recently, in Berlin.

Individuals who were:

“persecuted for political, racial, religious or ideological reasons”

by the wartime German regime have been eligible for money from the Bonn and Berlin government under the terms of the Federal Compensation Law (BEG) of 1953 and 1956.

This includes Jews who were interned in camps or ghettos, were obliged to wear the star badge, or who lived in hiding.

As of January 1984, there were 4.39 million successful individual BEG restitution claims. The great majority of these were from Jews. Raul Hilberg has said that “about two thirds” of the allowed claims have been from Jews.

This is a realistic but possibly conservative estimate.

Approximately 40 percent of those receiving payments were living in Israel, 20 percent in West Germany, and 40 percent in the United States and other countries.[

The Atlanta Journal and Constitution newspaper reported in 1985 that an estimated 50 percent of Jewish “survivors throughout the world are on West German pensions.”

But this estimate is very probably too high. For example, Jews in Poland, the Soviet Union, Hungary, Romania, and Czechoslovakia were not eligible for restitution, at least not at that time.

In the United States, only about 66 percent of the Jewish “Holocaust survivors” in the Atlanta (Georgia) area in 1985 had received German restitution money.

If one conservatively estimates that two thirds of the 4.39 million individual claims for German restitution have come from Jews, that would mean some 2.9 million Jewish claims.

And if half of the Jewish “Holocaust survivors” around the world have not received any restitution (which is probably a low figure), and granted that the number of claimants may be somewhat larger than the number of claims, it would appear that some six million European Jews “survived” the Second World War.

(Of course, some European Jews who lived through the war years died before the German BEG restitution law was enacted in 1953.)

And given that there were no more than some eight million European Jews under German wartime control, the number of Jews who died in Europe during the Second World War must be fewer than three million. As we shall see, the actual figure of Jewish wartime dead is substantially lower.

Finally, estimates of “Holocaust survivors” provided in recent years by authoritative Jewish sources cannot be reconciled with the generally accepted “Holocaust” story or the Six Million figure.

Before going further, it is a remarkable fact that, in recent years, the number of “Holocaust survivors” has actually been increasing. This is because – as Jewish scholar Norman Finkelstein stresses in his important book, The Holocaust Industry – Israel, the World Jewish Congress, and other major Jewish organizations, all of which demand and collect billions in the name of “Holocaust survivors,” have an interest in inflating figures both of wartime victims and of postwar survivors.

A report issued in July 1997 – that is, fifty-three years after the end of the war – by a committee organized by the Israeli prime minister’s office estimated the number of “Holocaust survivors” (admittedly defined rather broadly) at between 834,000 and 960,000.

A similarly authoritative report issued in June 2000, that is, fifty-five years after the end of the war in Europe, estimated the number of Jewish “Holocaust” survivors at between 832,000 and 935,000.

These figures, Robert Faurisson has written, suggest that there were slightly more than three million Jewish “survivors” in Europe at the end of the 1939–1945 war.

Norman Finkelstein, a professor of political science at Hunter College in New York, and author of The Holocaust Industry, has commented that, on the basis of these Israeli or Jewish figures, there would have been eight million Jewish “Holocaust survivors” in Europe at the end of the war in May 1945. Remarking on this, Finkelstein has said:

There were fewer than eight million Jews in all of Nazi-occupied Europe. In other words, if these numbers are correct, the Holocaust didn’t happen. As my mother used to say, if everyone who claims to be a Holocaust survivor actually is one, who did Hitler kill?

How many Jews did die during the Second World War? A year after the end of the war, an apparently impartial Swiss analysis entitled “How high is the number of Jewish victims?” concluded that no more than 1.5 million European Jews could have perished (of all causes) under German rule during the war. It appeared in June 1946 in the respected daily Baseler Nachrichten of neutral Switzerland. (My higher estimates are between 2 - 3 million.)

The widely-cited figures of between five and six million Jewish dead, the analysis noted, were not based on official sources, but merely private and semi-official estimates that greatly exaggerated the number of Jews that ever came under German control.

Stephen F. Pinter, a U.S. War Department attorney who was stationed in Germany after the war, published a statement in 1959 in which he condemned what he called:

...the old propaganda myth that millions of Jews were killed by the National Socialists.”

He went on to write:

From what I was able to determine during six postwar years in Germany and Austria, there were a number of Jews killed, but the figure of a million was certainly never reached. I interviewed thousands of Jews, former inmates of concentration camps in Germany and Austria, and consider myself as well qualified as any man on this subject.

Some revisionist historians have reached similar conclusions.

Arthur Butz and Robert Faurisson have written that as many as one million European Jews may have died of all causes during the war years (not counting those serving in military forces).

Walter Sanning, a European-American scholar and university lecturer, concluded in his detailed 1983 study that total Jewish losses during the Second World War were “in the neighborhood” of 1.25 million, many of whom died as Red Army soldiers or in Soviet camps and forced evacuations.

A common rejoinder to expressions of skepticism about the Six Million is rhetorically to ask:

What difference does it make how many were killed? It would be terrible if just one million, or even one thousand, Jews were murdered.”

To many people, efforts to establish the true numbers seem like insensitive and perhaps irrelevant quibbling. Or to justify the National Socialist regime.

But the skeptics are not the ones who incessantly and insistently go on about Six Million murdered Jews. It is not the revisionists who have made a totem of this legendary figure, or who invoke it as quasi-sacrosanct ritual symbol. In any case, striving for historical exactitude, even about the iconic Six Million, is precisely what historians are supposed to do.

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Thanks for the info Jesus. Do you have a site or link where I can find the full Korherr report? User anticapitalist does seem to be arguing in bad faith and I appreciate the backup.

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Did you read all parts. THe part you commented on is Part 5. All the Parts together debunk many of anticapitalists claims, which have been discredited by even the mainstream scholars many years ago.

Here's the report and various beneficial pages on it:

https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?p=2097

https://archive.org/details/KorherrReport

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3464

https://codoh.com/library/document/5075/

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BEST PDF of DOC I found: https://codoh.com/media/files/downloads/StephenChallen-RichardKorherrAndHisReports-CromwellLondon1993.pdf

Translation:

The Inspector for Statistics At the Reichsführer SS

[Stamp: Secret Reich Matter]

THE FINAL SOLUTION OF THE EUROPEAN JEWISH QUESTION

Statistical Report

C o n t e n t s:

I. Introduction

II. The Balance of Jews in Germany

III. Jewish Population Weakness

IV. The Emigration of Jews from Germany

V. The Evacuation of the Jews

VI. The Jews in the Ghettos

VII. The Jews in the Concentration Camps

VIII. Jews in Penitentiaries

IX. The Use of Jewish Labor

X. European Balance of Jews


THE FINAL SOLUTION OF THE EUROPEAN JEWISH QUESTION

Statistical Report

I. INTRODUCTION


In order to make a balance of the results on the way to the solution of the Jewish question it is necessary to determine the number of Jews and its development. The contradictions in the data about the number of Jews, however, make necessary an introduction in the sense that numbers about Jewry are always to be taken with special reservation and can lead to wrong conclusions without a knowledge as to their source and as to how they came about.

The sources of mistakes lie mainly in the nature of Jewry and its historical development, in its millenary restless wandering, the countless admissions and withdrawals, the efforts at assimilation, the mixtures with the host peoples, the efforts of Jews to avoid registration and finally the wrong or wrongly interpreted statistics about Jewry.

Furthermore statistics – partially as a statistical makeshift, partially due to the wide coincidence between Jewish faith and Jewish race, partially in ignorance of the idea of race, partially due to the religious thinking of the respective time – have until lastly recorded Jews according to their religious confession and almost never according to their race. The recording of the race requires a training of many years and also ancestry research. It also turned out to be difficult mainly in the southern and eastern countries, given that despite all coincidence a uniform Jewish race was difficult to delimitate. The adhesion to Mosaic or Israeli faith in turn is no fully valid proof, given that due to the former Jewish missionary movement with its taking in of heathens and Christians, and also due to conversions to Jewry and mixed marriages in more recent times, there are not a few confessional Jews of non-Jewish race, while on the other hand forced christianizing and the number of baptized Jews that again increased in the last century, together with the number of non-confessionals of Jewish race, brought down the number of Jews. In 1893 Leroy-Beaulieu estimated the loss of Jewry to Christianity at four to ten times its present-day adherents; according to Maurice Fishberg and Mathias Mieses three time the actual number of Jews have merged with Aryan Europe. Even Hans Günther estimates the number of Jews in Germany at double the number of Jews of Mosaic faith who have German citizenship. The Lithuanian Jew Brutzkus even goes as far as to consider the Jews of Berlin as more pure Europeans, according to the composition of their blood, than the Germans of Berlin.

In accordance with these opinions the number of racial Jews including half-breeds in Europe has been frequently calculated as three times as high as that of the confessional Jews (twice as high in Eastern Europe, four times as high in Central Europe, even eight times as high in the rest of Europe), and the portion of more of less Jewish blood in the European population has been calculated at more or less 6 per cent. On the other hand Burgdörfer estimated the number of Jews in Germany in 1933 at 850 000 full, half and quarter Jews (with 502 799 confessional Jews) and the number of Jews in Austria in 1934 at 300-400 000 (with 191 738 confessional Jews). The recording of racial Jews at the German census on 1939 resulted in 307 892 confessional Jews and the only a little higher number of 330 892 full Jews, 72 738 half Jews and 42 811 quarter Jews, numbers that are by no means to be considered reliable especially in what concerns the half – and quarter Jews. The numbers obtained can thus only be considered as minimum numbers. They came about through the question “Was or is one of the 4 grandparents a full Jew?” contained in a “supplementary form” to the list of households of the 1939 census, which had to be answered by “yes” or “no” for each grandparent. As the supplementary form was to be delivered in a closed envelope and thus beyond control on site, it was wrongly filled in. In many cases only lines were drawn in the respective field, instead of an answer.

The first official attempt to record the Jews according to their race was immediately sabotaged by the Jews. It happened at the Austrian census of 7 March 1923. Vice Chancellor Dr. Frank (Greater German People’s Party) signed a decree shortly before the census, according to which under question 7 of the census sheet (language) "ethnicity and race" were also to be indicated. As the census sheets had already been printed, this was only pointed out in a red reminder sheet without clarification and examples. The Austrian Jews sabotaged this question pursuant to the request, forwarded to its readers by the Jewish-Marxist press on the day immediately before the census date, to answer the question about the race with “white”. The result was that “the “white race turned out to be as widely represented in Austria as the sphere of influence of the Jewish-Marxist press and political parties was”. Only in Kärnten and in the Burgenland the processing of the material was carried out with rather dubious success, in all other federal states and principally in Vienna, however, it was given up as being pointless.

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II. THE BALANCE OF JEWS IN GERMANY


The following data about the number and development of Jews in Germany are based on official census data and other official records of the Reich and on scientific calculations and estimations, but they have mainly been prepared by the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany and by the cult communities in Vienna and Prague, who work with counting, counting forms for population movements, extrapolations and estimates. These Jewish entities work under the control of the Reichssicherheitshaupt [Reich Main Security Office] and for its purposes. Apart from the dubious data about the initial numbers the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany seems to produce reliable work. On the basis of the statistics prepared by this entity and so far checked by the Reichssicherheitshauptamt, the following balance on the development of Jewry from before the taking of power (30.1.1933 in the Old Reich, March 1938 in Austria and March 1939 in the Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia) until 01.01.1943 can be drawn:

1. Balance of Jews in the Old Reich including Sudetengau and Danzig

  • Number of Jews in the Old Reich(without Sudetengau and Danzig)on 30.1.1933 around 561 000

  • Reduction between 30.1.33 an 1.1.43 through

  • Excess mortality(Old Reich ) - 61 193

  • Excess emigration - 352 534

  • Off-going (Evacuation) - 100 516- 514 243

  • Increase from 30.1.33 to 1.1.43 through Incorporation of the Sudeten-Land + 2 649 x) other changes (Danzig immigration, emigration, authorized withdrawals, recognition as I. degree half breed, new recording, rectification of data sheets + 1 921 + 4 570

  • Number of Jews in the Old Reich (with Sudetengau and Danzig) on 1.1.1943 51 327

2. Balance of Jews in the Ostmark[Austria]

  • Number of Jews in the Ostmark on 1.3.1938 around 220 000

  • Reduction from 1.3.38 to 1.1.43 through

  • Excess mortality - 14 509

  • Excess emigration - 149 124

  • Off-going (Evacuation) - 47 555

  • Other changes - 710 - 211 898

  • Number of Jews in the Ostmark on 1.1.1943 8 102

3. Balance of Jews in the Protectorate Bohemia and Moravia

  • Number of Jews in the Protectorate on 15.3.1943 118 310
  • Reduction from 15.3.39 to 1.1.43 through
  • Excess mortality - 7 074
  • Excess emigration - 26 009
  • Off-going (Evacuation) - 69 677 - 102 760

  • Number of Jews in the Protectorate on 1.1.1943 15 550


x) This number of 2 649 Jews in the Sudetenland was established during the census of 1939. Prior to the incorporation of the Sudetenland into the Reich the number of Jews was around 3 . . who however very quickly, without crossing a state border and without losses in patrimony, left for the Protectorate.

In this balance the newly acquired eastern territories (except for Danzig) are not included. A balance for these cannot yet be made. However, there are several estimates about the number of Jews in these areas, which should lead to a number of about 630 000. In addition to these there are 160,000 Jews in the Bialystok district and around 1.3 million Jews in the General Government as at the time of its constitution. This would lead to a total number of Jews in the whole German area (without the occupied eastern territories) of about 2.5 million x) at the end of 1939, the greatest past thereof in the new East.

On 1.1.1943 the Reich without the new eastern territories, the old-age ghetto Theresienstadt and the labor usage within the scope of the Organisation Schmelt had only 74 979 Jews, thereof 51 327 in the Old Reich, 8 102 in the Ostmark and 15 550 in the Protectorate. In the Old Reich with the Sudetenland there are now only 9.2 per cent of the number of Jews on the day of the taking over of power. On 30.1.1943 their number has been further reduced to 48 242 or 8.6 per cent, on 25.2.1943 even further to 44 589 or 7.9 per cent. In Berlin, where already in 1880 there lived one-eighth, in 1910 more than a quarter and in 1933 almost a one third of the Jews of Germany, there are on 1.1.1943 no less than 32 999 or 64.3 per cent of all Jews of the Old Reich, on 30.1.1943 still 30 121, on 28.2.1943 still 27 281.

In the Ostmark there are Jews only in Vienna.

Of the 51 327 Jews in the Old Reich 23 197 are men and 28 130 are women. 40 351 are confessional Jews, 10 976 are non-confessional Jews, 16 760 live in mixed marriages. In the Ostmark the number is 4 803 (out of 8 102), in the Protectorate it is 6 211 (out of 15 550).

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III. JEWISH POPULATION WEAKNESS


The balance of Jews in Germany shows an extraordinary excess mortality that is due not only to a very high mortality of the Jews, but also to the marked scarcity of births. Thus the natural population development in the Old Reich including the Sudetenland from 1933 to 1942 has been as follows (according to the estimates and date of the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany, given that the counting by confessional Jews is much more complicated and unreliable):


x) Without Lemberg district with around 700 000 Jews.

Births and Deaths of Jews in the Old Reich (calculated and estimated until 1939)

Years Births Deaths Excess mortality(-)

1933 3 425 8 925 - 5 500

1934 2 300 8 200 - 5 900

1935 2 500 8 100 - 5 600

1936 2 300 8 000 - 5 700

1937 2 100 8 000 - 5 900

1938 1 000 7 448 - 6 448

1939 610 8 136 - 7 526

1940 396 6 199 - 5 803

1941 351 6 249 - 5 898

1942 239 7 657 - 7 418

1933-1942 15 221 76 914 - 61 693

The excess mortality from the day of taking over of power (30.1.1933) until 1.1.1943 in the Old Reich including the Sudetenland is 61 693; this is the result of 14 921 births versus 76 114 deaths. While the migration on the one hand and the absence of recording in the first year and deficiency of recording since especially in regard to deaths in the concentration camps by the Reich Association of the Jews on the other hand leave room for many errors, the approximate overview shows a constant number of deaths despite the reduction of the number of Jews. Jewish mortality thus amounts to 80-85(against the European average of 10 to 15) in 1000 (in the calendar year 1942).

What is further to be noted is the decrease of births, which by far anticipates the decrease of the number of Jews. The Jewish birth rate in the Old Reich thus amounts to only 2 1/2 in 1 000 in 1942. Also in the Ostmark between 1.3.138 and 1.1.1943 there were 15 188 Jewish deaths for only 679 Jewish births. In the Old Reich there were only 14 Jewish children born in December 1942, 7 an 8 in January and February 1943, respectively. It must in this respect be taken into account that Jewry has topped the civilized Western states in lack of births since decades, as can be seen on hand of the confessional statistics of births. The Jew Felix Theilhaber already in 1911 pointed to the “Demise of German Jewry” resulting therefrom, which was only covered up by the constant influx of Eastern Jewish blood. This phenomenon was only partially related to the over-aging of European big city Jewry: It was mainly due to a real lack of life strength. In the actual extraordinary mortality of the Jews and the extremely low birth rate, however, the Jewish age structure is also a factor to be considered.

After their best classes have gone off, the Jews in Germany are mainly old people, for which reason their age structure, when graphically represented, has the form of a “club”, according to the objectively accurate terminology of the Reich Association of the Jews. There is a lack of children and reproductive classes, whereas the classes of older people are not only much stronger in proportion than the younger classes, but also much stronger in absolute numbers.

This is also one of the reasons for the excessive suicide rate, given that suicide is primarily a cause of death of older people.

IV. THE EMIGRATION OF JEWS FROM GERMANY


The migration of Jews from eastern, central and western Europe and the whole of Europe overseas, mostly to the United States of America, is a generally observed phenomenon. Many Jews emigrated from Germany mainly between 1840 and 1870, but after 1870 emigration stopped almost completely. Now in turn the Germans emigrated. The Jewish emigration from Germany since 1933, in a certain sense a recuperation of the movement that did not occur in 1870, caught the special attention of the whole civilized world, especially the democratic countries ruled by Jews. It was attempted by the most varied entities with the most varied methods to record the number and structure of the emigrants. Yet no uniform results were achieved.

The numbers of the German emigration statistics, those of the Reich Association of the Jews in Germany and of the Israeli cult communities in Vienna and Prague, the numerous foreign recordings, calculations and estimates, the statistics of international Jewry and the numbers of scientific studies show great discrepancies among each other. Professor Zielenziger in Amsterdam, for instance, considered that there were 135 000 emigrants from the taking over of power until the end of 1937, while the Reich Association of the Jews concluded that there had been 203 000 emigrants. Since 1938 emigration increased considerably, but it ended almost completely (save for a few exceptions each month) with the interdiction of Jewish emigration in the autumn of 1941. The Reich Association of Jews and the Israeli cult communities in Vienna and Prague concluded on the following high emigration numbers until 1.1. 1943(including double counting):

Emigrants from Number Period

  • Old Reich with Sudetenland 352 543 (30.1.33-1.1.43)
  • Ostmark 149 124 ( 1.3.38-1.1.43)
  • Protectorate 26 009 (15.2.39-1.1.43)

The hurried emigration in the beginning made exact data impossible. Also the destination of emigration, insofar as it was a European country, is in many cases to be considered a mere intermediate station. Of the emigrants from the Old Reich about 144 000 went to other European countries, about 57 000 went to the USA, 54 000 to South America, 10 000 to Central America, 53 000 to Palestine, 15 000 to Africa(mainly South Africa), 16 000 to Asia (China),

4 000 to Australia. Of the 144 000 Jews who emigrated to European countries more than 32 000 went to England alone, 39 000 went to Poland or the General Government, 18 000 went to France, 8000 to Italy, 7 500 to the Netherlands, 6 000 to Belgium. It is to be assumed that the greater part of these emigrants went on overseas from said countries. For the Jewish emigrants from the Ostmark, the following goals were indicated: 65 500 to European countries, 50 000 to America, 20 000 to Asia, 9 000 to Palestine, 2 600 to Africa, 2 000 to Australia.

V. THE EVACUATION OF THE JEWS


The evacuation of the Jews replaced the emigration of the Jews, at least on the territory of the Reich. It was extensively prepared since the prohibition of Jewish emigration in the autumn of 1941 and to a large extent carried out throughout the Reich territory in the year 1942. In the balance of Jewry it is referred to as "off-going".

Until 1.1.1943, according to the records of the Reichssicherheitshauptamt, the following numbers went off:

  • the Old Reich with Sudetenland 100 516 Jews
  • From the Ostmark 47 555 "
  • From the Protectorate 69 677 "
  • Sum 217 748 Jews

In these numbers the Jews evacuated to the old-age ghetto Theresienstadt are also included.

All evacuations on the territory of the Reich and including the eastern territories and further in the German area of power and influence in Europe from October 1939 or later until 31.12.1942 resulted in the following numbers:

  1. Evacuation of Jews from Baden and the Palatinate to France ....... 6 504 Jews

  2. Evacuation of Jews from the Reich territory incl. the Protectorate and Bialystok district to the East...... 170 642 "

  3. Evacuation of Jews from the Reich area and the Protectorate to Theresienstadt................. 87 193

  4. Transportation of Jews from the eastern provinces to the Russian East: ............................ 1 449 692

"The following numbers were sifted through the camps in the General government ..................... 1 274 166

Jews through the camps in the Warthegau..... 145 301 Jews

  1. Evacuation from other countries, namely:

France (insofar as occupied before 10.11.1942 )............... 41 911 Jews

Netherlands........................ 38 571 "

Belgium............................ 16 886 "

Norway ........................... 532 "

Slovakia................. 56 691 Jews

Crotia ................ 4 927 "


Evacuations total(incl.

Theresienstadt and incl.

special treatment)........... 1 873 549 Jews

w./o Theresienstadt.......... 1 786 356 "

  1. In addition, according to data from the Reichssicherheitshauptamt there is the evacuation of... 633 300 Jews in the Russian territories incl. the former Baltic countries since the beginning of the Eastern Campaign.

The above numbers do not include the inmates of ghettoes and concentration camps.

The evacuations from Slovakia and Croatia were carried out by these states themselves.

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VI. THE JEWS IN THE GHETTOS


There must be mentioned here:

  1. The old age ghetto Theresienstadt, to which there were led a total of: 87 193 Jews,

thereof from the Reich 47 471 (Ostmark 14 222) " " Protectorate 39 722.

At the beginning of the year 1943 it had a total of Jewish inmates: 49 392

Thereof with German nationality 24 313

Protectorate nationality 25 079

The reduction occurred mainly by deaths.

Besides Theresienstadt there are on the territory of the Reich a number of Jewish old age and sick homes with smaller capacity, which however are considered as neither ghettoes nor evacuation sites.

  1. The ghetto Litzmannstadt at the beginning of 1943 had 87 180 Jews, thereof 83 133 with former Polish nationality.

  2. The numbers Jews placed in other ghettos of the General Government as of 31.12.1942 are indicated or estimated as follows:

District Number of Jews

Cracow 37 000

Radom 29 000

Lublin 20 000 (estimated)

Warsaw 50 000

Lemberg 161 514

General Gov. sum 297 914

VII. THE JEWS IN THE CONCENTRATION CAMPS


In the concentration camps there were, from the taking over of power to 31.12.1942 73 417 interments of Jews thereof released 36 943 died 27 347

Remainder as per 31.12.42: 9 127 Jews

It must be taken into account that the number of internments of Jews is higher than the number of Jews in the concentration camps, as repeated internments of one Jews are counted repeatedly.

Not included are the Jews accommodated in the concentration camps Auschwitz and Lublin within the scope of the evacuation action.

For the various concentration camps we have, divided by internments, releases, deaths and the status as of 31.12.1942, the following numbers:

Jews in the Concentration Camps

Concentration Camp; Internments; Releases; Deaths; Status as of 31.12.1942

Lublin/Men; 23 409; 4 509; 14 217; 4 683

Lublin/Women; 2 849; 59; 131; 2 659

Auschwitz/Men 4 917; 1; 3 716; 1 200

Auschwitz/Women 932; -; 720 ; 212

Buchenwald 16 827; 13 805; 2 795; 227

Mauthausen/Gusen 2 064; -; 1 985; 79

Sachsenhausen 7 960; 6 570; 1 344; 46

Stutthof/Men 28; -; 13; 15

Stutthof/Women 3; -; -; 3

Ravensbrück/Women 1 321; 531; 787; 3

Ravensbrück/Men 273; 44; 229; -

Dachau 12 026; 11 140; 886; -

Groß-Rosen 231; -; 231; -

Lichtenburg 195; 195; -; -

Neuengamme 192; 2; 190; -

Floßenbürg 80; 2; 78; -

Sachsenburg 52; 52; -; -

Esterwegen 36; 33; 3; -

Niederhagen 12; -; 12; -

Natzweiler 10; -; 10; -

Sum all camps 73 417; 36 943; 27 347; 9 127

VIII. JEWS IN PENITENTIARIES


At the beginning of the year 1943 there were in the penitentiaries on the territory of the Reich 458 Jews, distributed among men and women and the various types of detention as follows:

Men Women Sum

Criminal detention 350 78 428

Security detention 29 - 29

Work House - 1´ 1

Penitentiaries

Together 379 79 458

IX. THE USE OF JEWISH LABOR


Working for the war effort at the beginning of the year 1943 there were on the territory of the Reich

185 776 Jews

They were employed as follows:

1) within the inspector areas of the security police and the SD (without Posen and without Soviet Russian Jews) 21 659, thereof 18 546 with German nationality, 107 with Protectorate nationality, 2 519 stateless and 487 foreigners. They were distributed by the inspection areas without Posen) as follows:

Berlin 15 100 Königsberg 2) 96

Braunschweig 110 München 313

Breslau 1) 2 451 Nürnberg 89

Danzig - Salzburg 7

Dresden 485 Stettin 18

Düsseldorf 673 Stuttgart 178

Hamburg 497 Wien 1 226

Kassel 259 Wiesbaden 139


1) without Organization Schmelt 2)without Soviet Russian Jews

2) in the inspector area Königsberg there are a further 18 435 foreign, i.e. almost exclusively Soviet Russian Jews.

3) in the inspector area Posen there are in ghetto – and camp employment 95 112 mainly Polish Jews.

4) within the scope of Organization Schmelt (Breslau) there are 50 570 Jews, thereof 42 382 stateless and 8 188 foreigners.

X. EUROPEAN BALANCE OF JEWS

The collapse of European Jewry was initiated decades ago by the population demise of European big city Jewry on the one hand and Jewish emigration on the other. The Jewish statistician Lestschinsky in 1927 clarified the reduction of European Jewry as follows: "At the beginning of the 19th century 85 % of all Jews lived in Europe, 80 % in Russia, Austria-Hungary and Germany alone; in America there were only 2 - 3 000 Jews at this time. In 1925 63 % of all Jews lived in Europe; within the borders of Germany, Austria-Hungary and Russia there were only 57 % of all Jews, while in America there were 30 % and in the rest of the world 7 %". According to the calculations of the Reich Institute of Statistics the part of European Jews in 1880 was even 88.4 per cent, while in 1937 it was only 60.4 per cent. In 1943 the European part of World Jewry should still be 1/3.

Around 1930 and in the last years the number of Jews in some more important European states was the following:

State; Census in year; Number of Jews; More recent counting of estimate: Number of Jews in 1 000; per cent of population of host people


Old Reich; 1933/35; 502 799; 1943; 51; 0,07

Austria; 1934; 191 481; 1943; 8; 0,1

Czechoslovakia; 1930; 356 830; .; .; .

  • Protectorate .; .; 1943; 16; 0,2

Danzig; 1929; 10 448; .; .; .

Memel Area; 1925; 2 402; 1937; 3; 2,0


Belgium; .; .; 1937; 80; 1,0

Bulgaria; 1934; 48 398; 1937; 50; 0,8

Finland .; .; 1937; 2; 0,04

France .; .; 1937; 280; 0,7

Greece 1928; 72 791; 1937; 90; 1,1

Great Britain 1931/33; 234 000; 1937; 345; 0,7

Italy 1930; 47 825; 1937; 52; 0,1


Ireland .; .; 1936; 4; 0,1

Yugoslavia 1930; 68 405; 1937; 75; 0,3

Latvia 1935; 93 479; 1937; 96; 4,9

Lithuania 1923; 155 125; 1937; 175; 7,4

Netherlands 1930; 111 917; 1937; 135; 1,6

Poland 1930; 3 113 933; 1937; 3 300; 9,6

Romania 1930; 984 213; 1941; 302 1); 2,2

Slovakia .; .; 1940; 89; 3,4

Soviet Russia 1926; 2 570 330; 1939; 4 600 2); 2,4

Hungary 1930; 444 567; 1940; 750 3); 5,8


1) New territorial status

2) New territorial status, with East Poland; the number was estimated.

3) New territorial status; the number was calculated

The total number of Jews in the world in 1937 is generally estimated at around 17 million, thereof more than 10 million in Europe. They concentrate or concentrated mainly in the former Polish-Russian areas occupied by Germany between the Baltic Sea and the Gulf of Finland and between the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov, further in the centers of commerce and the Rhine area of Central and Western Europe and on the coasts of the Mediterranean.

From 1937 to the beginning of 1943 the number of Jews, partially due to the excess mortality of the Jews in Central and Western Europe, partially due to the evacuations especially in the more strongly populated Eastern Territories which are here counted as off-going, should have diminished by an estimated 4 million. It must not be overlooked in this respect that of the deaths of Soviet Russian Jews in the occupied Eastern territories only a part was recorded, whereas deaths in the rest of European Russia and at the front are not included at all. In addition there are movements of Jews inside Russia to the Asian part which are unknown to us. The movement of Jews from the European countries outside the German influence is also of a largely unknown order of magnitude. On the whole European Jewry should since 1933, i.e. in the first decade of National Socialist German power, have lost almost half of its population.

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Prelude Part 1


Apart from the assertions in the paper you linked that are not based on physical evidence, it says this in the Haartz article, and I did base my assertions on census data and what we know. The six million figure is not based on what we observe through facts and figures. So, firstly, Let's talk about your source. It states:

...4,000,000 in extermination camps and the remaining 2,000,000 through shooting by the Operations Units and other causes, such as disease, etc.”

Most notable among these were the Roma, or Gypsies, with estimates of the number killed ranging from 90,000 to 1.5 million.

Six million” is not, and was never intended to be, a precise accounting. But the number, which has now been part of the public consciousness for more than 50 years, would never have continued to be cited if it did not mirror the scholarly tallies that have followed in the succeeding decades, and confirmed that rough figure.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-features/.premium-1.540880

So, this testimony is hearsay. Just because a Zionist National Socialist (in Eichman's memoirs he claims to be a Zionist more than a Nazi) in a Kangaroo court trial tells us exactly six million Jews perished; four million in extermination camps, does not make it true. Eichmann and Hoetll in fact could have easily lied and did fabricate many stories as exposed by various scholars, intelligence agencies as well as declassified documents over the years.

Testimony: Trustworthy?


So, where does the figure of 6 million victims come from?

Considering the amount of original research that has been done in recent decades, is this number still considered accurate by scholars of the subject?

The number seems to have first been mentioned by Dr. Wilhelm Hoettl, an Austrian-born official in the Third Reich and a trained historian who served in a number of senior positions in the SS.

In November 1945, Hoettl testified for the prosecution in the Nuremberg trials of accused Nazi war criminals. Later, in the 1961 trial in Israel of Adolf Eichmann, he also submitted to a lengthy series of questions from the prosecution, speaking under oath from a courtroom in Austria.

Hoettl later confided in a published letter that the '6,000,000' account was a lie....which he had claimed to have heard from Eichmann.

"The government of Israel has always been afraid that the Eichmann book would compete with the verdict of the court"

After Gideon Hausner, the prosecutor in the Eichmann trial, cautioned that publication of the memoirs could compete with the verdict, Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion ordered the manuscript locked away for 15 years at which time that decision would be reviewed.

"But the decision was not reviewed and the document continued to remain under lock.

Eichmann was very meticulous in his recording and refers to some sketches and diagrams. One of the diagrams outlines the Gestapo hierarchy with Eichmann being near the bottom.

see: Los Angeles Times, Feb.29, 2000

An interesting letter on Eichmann by Paul Grubach. Here we see that the 'holocaust' Industry's own have rejected Eichmann's 'testimonies:

Mark Roseman:

Eichmann, for his part, was at pains to establish a clear set of orders that absolved him of responsibility."

Adolf Eichmann spoke more openly, but his testimony is unreliable, particularly on his own aspirations, concerned as he was to portray himself as a dutiful errand boy, with neither initiation nor knowledge."

Both Rudolf Hoess's and Eichmann's testimonies lack credibility."

Grubach:

On pages 97-98, he claims that Eichmann invented false claims. Then, on page 104, he again claims that Eichmann's defense strategy "was to establish that his superiors had given clear killing orders."

On his alleged pre-arrest 'memoirs', well...these 'memoirs' also have him describing himself as being more of a Zionist than an SS officer, which is quite interesting.

Eichmann clearly copy-catted now debunked material given to him:

1.) He refers to reading the 'holocaust' Industry's Reitlinger for 'information'.

2.) He had a heavily annotated copy of the discreditied Hoess memoirs, published in Germany in 1957.

3.) His preposterous statements that diesel submarine motors were used in gas chambers and that the hair of the victims was used to make slippers are from the bogus Gerstein claims. Gerstein's affidavit became very widely known right after the war. Gerstein made many different & absurdly conflicting 'confessions' as has been demonstrated by Frenchman Henri Rocques.

4.) Eichmann claims being ordered to go to Lemberg:

"There had been a pit there, it was already filled in, and blood was gushing out of it...how shall I say?...like a geyser. I've never seen anything like it. I'd had enough of that mission".

Which was taken from laughable testimony at the Einsatzgruppen Show Trials of 1947.

I wonder who told him to say that?

Elie Wiesel claimed that at Babi Yar, a place in the Ukraine where the Germans allegedly executed 34,000 Jews:

Later, I learn from a witness that, for month after month, the ground never stopped trembling; and that, from time to time, geysers of blood spurted from it.

Paroles d'étranger (Editions du Seuil, 1982), p. 86


When a man is kidnapped, held in solitary confinement, and fighting for his life it's not difficult to see why he would say just about anything.

We must also ask how the accusers can conduct a trial of the accused? It is necessarily a bogus, unfair trial.

And then we're back to the fact that there is no physical evidence, no documentary evidence, and the 'extermination' methods as alleged are scientifically impossible. That does not mean Jews were not imprisoned, confined and executed, possibly up to a million in Nazi and Soviet camps.

Furthermore, in 2003, Browning concluded:

“Clearly, anyone who wants to dismiss Eichmann’s testimonies on the grounds of their demonstrated unreliability and shameless self-serving lies can easily do so, and many of my colleagues have done precisely this [p.11].”

In his precapture statements, Eichmann claimed that he saw the alleged homicidal gas chambers of Majdanek, a concentration camp in Poland. Browning informed his readers in 2003 that these “observations” are not credible:

In both precapture accounts, Eichmann’s dating is vague. Furthermore, the claims that gassing was already taking place in this first camp, or that it was Majdanek, are contrary to what we know from other sources. The precapture testimonies, in short, are helpful to neither the historian nor Eichmann’s credibility [p.23].”

In plain language, Eichmann never saw the “gas chambers” he claimed to have seen at Majdanek. Actually nobody has; all the gas chambers alleged so far have turned out to be delousing chambers, and are proven to be scientifically inconsistent with the alleged extermination chambers used to kill at a mathematically impossible frequency. I'm willing to get in more detail concerning this aspect. However, let's focus on your sources.

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=5262‬

So just to summarize Eichmann's precapture "testimony" is worthless as it contains so many errors and contradictions that it can be just completely ignored and has been by many scholars.

Also, the alleged Sassen recordings have never been released for scrutiny. Why not? Why should we believe edited and alleged excerpts that were printed in Life magazine but the alleged tapes never released. What are they hiding

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Drop in Population? Part 2


As for the drop in Jewish population via consensus data:

Any sane person would soon accept that six million jews did not die. But when one checks the data above it becomes even more bizarre.

Just look at the 1989 and 2001 figures. In three years the world Jewish population dropped by nearly 5.5 million. Was there another holocaust we did not know of?

Thus I can only suggest that any counting of Jewish numbers around the world at any stage in history should be questioned. How on earth could an American organization accurately know how many jews were living in Russia, Poland, Hungary, Latvia, Belarus etc., before the second world war?

Now what the consensus data in population does show is a decrease but nowhere close to the six million figure. In higher estimates we come to 2.5 million which I have backed up via various documents, work orders, and consensus data from other organizations.

The Six Million Figure?


In June 1945, before the trial began, the man who was organizing it, U.S. Chief Prosecutor Robert Jackson, met three lawyers representing major influential Jewish organizations. Jackson wanted to get their input for the upcoming trial. Regarding Jewish population losses, Jackson asked them straight forward:

How great were those [Jewish] losses?”

One of those lawyers, Dr. Robinson, responded spontaneously:

Six million.”

But how could he have known this?

The mystery deepens as we go back in time. Already in December of 1944, when the Allied armies were about to enter Germany, the Soviet propagandist Ilya Ehrenburg wrote in the Soviet’s English language newspaper Soviet War News, as reproduced here (Dec. 22, 1944, pp. 4f.):

In regions they seized, the Germans killed all the Jews, from the old folk to infants in arms. Ask any German prisoner why his fellow countrymen annihilated six million innocent people, and he will reply quite simply: ‘Why, they were Jews.’”

That’s not the only time this symbolic figure appeared in that propaganda newspaper published for Anglo-Saxon readers. It was repeated in the issues of January 4 and March 15, 1945. We read there:

The world now knows that Germany has killed six million Jews.”

Those articles were re-discovered by the German historian Dr. Joachim Hoffmann who has reproduced them in the appendix to his 2001 book Stalin’s War of Extermination, see its front cover here on the right.

Here the same question comes to mind: How could Ehrenburg know that six million had been killed before even a single Allied soldier had set foot onto German soil?

By remarkable coincidence, some twenty-five years earlier the American Jewish community had been warning of a “holocaust” of six million Jews in Europe. In an address published in 1919 in a leading Jewish American paper, the American Hebrew of New York City, under the headline “The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!,” the former governor of New York state, Martin Glynn, spoke repeatedly of “six million” European Jews who were “dying” and “being whirled toward the grave” in a “threatened holocaust of human life.”

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Wilhelm Höttl (sometimes spelled Hoettl): Is he Credible? Part 3


Given all this, it is hardly surprising that someone was found to provide “proof” for the Six Million figure at the most extravagant judicial undertaking in history, the 1945–46 trial in Nuremberg of Hermann Göring, Rudolf Hess, and other high-ranking Third Reich personalities.

The legendary figure was fixed in history at the International Military Tribunal in Nuremberg, where it was cited by chief British prosecutor Sir Hartley Shawcross in his closing address, and by the Allied judges in their final judgment.

This figure was not the result of any careful investigation, research, or calculation.

The only specific evidence presented for it to the Nuremberg Tribunal was the hearsay testimony of former SS officer Wilhelm Höttl (sometimes spelled Hoettl), who said that he recalled it from a remark by Adolf Eichmann, the wartime head of the Jewish affairs section of Himmler’s Reich Security Main Office (RSHA).

Höttl, who also served with the RSHA during the war, stated in an affidavit dated November 26, 1945, and provided to the U.S. prosecution at Nuremberg, that Eichmann confided to him in August 1944 that some four million Jews had been killed in the “various extermination camps,” and another two million had been killed in other ways, mostly in shootings by Einsatzgruppen forces in the course of the military campaign in Russia.

Eichmann himself, it should be noted, later called the Höttl story:

"Nonsense.”

Vigorously denied ever having made the alleged remark, and speculated that Höttl may have picked up the figure from a radio or newspaper report.

If it were not for Wilhelm Höttl’s role in branding into the world’s consciousness the trademark Six Million figure, his place in history would likely be little more than a footnote.

But alas, Who was this man, and how reliable is his historic affidavit?

He was born in Vienna in March 1915. In 1938, at the remarkably young age of twenty-three, he received a doctorate in history from the University of Vienna. While still a student there, he joined the National Socialist party and the SS. From 1939 until the end of the war in Europe, Höttl was employed almost without interruption by Germany’s central intelligence agency, the RSHA. He was first stationed in Vienna with the “foreign bureau” (Amt Ausland, later Amt VI), and then, from early 1943, in Berlin in the “Southeastern Europe” branch E of Amt VI, with the SS rank of major (Sturmbannführer).

In March 1944 Höttl was assigned to Budapest, where he served as second in command to Himmler’s SS representative in Hungary, and as political advisor to Hitler’s ambassador there, Edmund Veesenmayer, who reported to Berlin, for example, on the large-scale deportations in 1944 of Jews from Hungary.

On May 8, 1945, as German forces were unconditionally surrendering to the Allies, American troops arrested Höttl in Austria, and for several years after that he worked as an intelligence agent for the United States.

He died in 1999, not long after the publication of his self-serving memoirs.

In April 2001 the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency made public thousands of pages of long-suppressed documents from its files of major German wartime figures, including the bulging Höttl file.

Along with the release of these documents, two U.S. government employees wrote and issued a detailed report about Höttl based on those recently declassified CIA files, which sheds revealing light on his wartime and postwar career.

This report, entitled “Analysis of the Name File of Wilhelm Hoettl,” was written by two “historical researchers” of the U.S. government’s “Interagency Working Group” (IWG), Miriam Kleiman and Robert Skwirot.

These documents establish that Höttl was a completely unreliable informant who routinely fabricated information to please those who were willing to pay him.

In their report, the two U.S. government researchers write:

Hoettl’s name file is approximately 600 pages, one of the largest of those released to the public so far. The size of the file owes to Hoettl’s postwar career as a peddler of intelligence, good and bad, to anyone who would pay him.

Reports link Hoettl to twelve different intelligence services, including the U.S., Yugoslav, Austrian, Israeli, Romanian, Vatican, Swiss, French, West German, Russian, Hungarian and British.

Soon after his arrest by the Americans in May 1945, Höttl began working for the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the predecessor to the Central Intelligence Agency, and then for the U.S. Army’s Counter Intelligence Corps (CIC).

As the two U.S. government researchers put it:

Upon his arrest, Hoettl played to the interests of his captors …”

It was during this period, while he was secretly working for American intelligence, that Höttl provided his historic and damning “six million” affidavit for submission by the American prosecution at the Allied-run tribunal at Nuremberg.

Höttl benefited from his readiness to tell those who paid him what they wanted to hear, but this eventually proved his undoing. All the same, it took several years for U.S. intelligence to firmly conclude that it was being had.

In June 1949 one U.S. intelligence official cautioned against using Höttl for any reason, calling him:

A man of such low character and poor political record that his use for intelligence activities, regardless of how profitable they may be, is a short-sighted policy by the U.S.”

In August 1950, CIA messages referred to Höttl as:

Notorious fabricator [of] intelligence.”

A U.S. Army CIC report in early 1952 deemed his information useless, noting that Höttl:

...is involved in extensive intelligence activities for almost anyone who is willing to purchase his findings.”

In April 1952 his reports were called:

...worthless and possibly inflated or fabricated.”

Interestingly, numerous U.S. intelligence reports identify connections between Höttl and Simon Wiesenthal, the well-known “Nazi hunter.”

One U.S. Army CIC document described Wiesenthal as the:

“Chief Austrian Agent of the Israeli Intelligence Bureau.”

A U.S. Army CIC report in January 1950 noted that for the last three or four months Wiesenthal had:

...recruited the services of Wilhelm Höttl,” and had hired him to gather information for reports by the “Nazi hunter.”

In July 1952, when U.S. Army intelligence finally broke completely with Höttl, a letter on U.S. Army stationery warned:

Dr. Höttl has long been known to this headquarters and other allied military organizations in Austria as a fabricator of intelligence information. His reports normally consist of a fine cobweb of fact, heavily padded with lies, deceit, conjecture and other false types of information. This organization will have absolutely nothing to do with Dr. Höttl or any members of his present entourage. He is persona non grata to the American, French and British elements in Austria.

In their report on his postwar career, U.S. government historical researchers Kleiman and Skwirot conclude:

The voluminous materials in Wilhelm Höttl’s personality file … trace the activities of a notorious intelligence peddler and fabricator, who successfully convinced one intelligence service after another of his value, and then proceeded to lose such support.

Indeed, and as already noted, Höttl:

“successfully convinced”

...the American and British prosecutors, and the judges, of the inter-Allied tribunal in Nuremberg, and many others around the world ever since, that German authorities killed six million Jews during the Second World War. And even though U.S. intelligence services and U.S. government researchers have, finally, as it were, discredited him, Höttl’s most historically important claim remains widely, and even officially accepted. The recently released U.S. intelligence documents on Höttl, and the U.S. government report about his postwar career, confirm what some revisionist scholars have contended for years.

In his pathbreaking book The Hoax of the Twentieth Century, first published in 1976, Dr. Arthur Butz cited sources that were publicly available even in the 1950s to show that, during the war, Höttl had gotten into trouble more than once with SS authorities.

His involvement in a shady Polish land deal led in 1942 to an SS investigation of his activities. An internal SS report characterized him as:

“dishonest, scheming, fawning,… a real hoaxer,” and concluded that he was not fit even for SS membership, let alone a sensitive intelligence service position.

Höttl was, accordingly, demoted. But his luck improved after his friend and fellow Austrian, Ernst Kaltenbrunner, was appointed in 1943 to head the RSHA. It seems that Kaltenbrunner protected him from a second disciplinary action, this one for misappropriation of security service funds.

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The Six Million Figure in Detail Part 4


Regardless of the unreliability of Höttl’s infamous affidavit, the more important question remains: How valid is the six million figure?

The most common technique used by Holocaust historians to calculate figures of between five and six million Jewish extermination victims is to compare prewar and postwar estimated Jewish population figures for various European countries and areas, and then assume that the differences between the figures were all killed. That I have already mentioned above.

This was the method used, for example, by Jacob Lestchinsky to produce a figure of 5,957,000 Jewish Holocaust deaths, in his important 1946 World Jewish Congress report.

It is also the technique used by the late Lucy Dawidowicz, another prominent Jewish Holocaust historian, who estimated a total of 5.9 million Jewish victims.

However, this method fails to take into account substantial numbers of Jews who emigrated or fled to Allied or neutral countries during the war years. It also ignores the fact that many Jews, particularly in Eastern Europe, did not return to their original homelands at the end of the war, but instead emigrated to Palestine, the United States, and other countries beyond Europe.

It further assumes that all Jewish deaths (or “losses”) were due to German or Axis policy.

Thus, all Jews in areas under German or Axis control who died during the war years are routinely and misleadingly counted as “victims of the Holocaust,” regardless of the cause of death. This includes Jews who died of natural causes, perished in Allied bombings of cities and concentration camps, who died as Allied soldiers, particularly in the Soviet military, or who – like hundreds of thousands of German civilians – succumbed to exhaustion, disease, and exposure in the particularly catastrophic final months of the war. Raul Hilberg, probably the most prominent Holocaust historian, acknowledges that a distinction should be made between:

"Jewish losses” and "Holocaust victims.”

He notes, for example, that the average age of Jews in Germany at the outbreak of the war was abnormally high anyway.

It is unlikely that there were ever six million Jews under German control during the war.

The wartime representative of the World Jewish Congress in Switzerland, Gerhard Riegner, confidentially reported to London and Washington in August 1942 that the total number of Jews in the countries occupied or controlled by Germany was three and a half to four million.

This figure presumably referred to Jews in the “Greater” German Reich (including Poland), as well as in France, Holland, Belgium, Slovakia, and the occupied Soviet territories.

If one adds the approximately 1.2 million Jews estimated to be living in Hungary and Romania, the total number of Jews that came under direct or indirect German control during the war years could not have been more than 5.2 million.

The unreliable character of the legendary Six Million calculation is also shown in the manipulation of Holocaust statistics in the cases of specific countries. In this regard, it is much more fruitful to examine Jewish losses in western European countries, where much more reliable statistics and other data are available, than to attempt to estimate Jewish losses in such eastern territories as Poland, where reliable data is not available. (In the case of Poland, even the country’s borders changed drastically during and just after the war.)

An important feature of these manipulations is that even though figures of alleged Jewish wartime losses in individual countries may be inflated and deflated over the years, there is an obvious effort to juggle figures so that the overall total is kept as high as possible.

The Case of Denmark Consider, for example, the case of Denmark. In 1946 the:

“Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry” announced in its widely quoted report that, out of a total of 5.7 million European Jews who perished during the war years, 1,500 were Danish Jews.

Raul Hilberg, in his highly regarded, three-volume 1985 study, gave a similar figure of 1,000 Danish Jews “lost” during the war years.

In fact, fewer than 500 Jews were ever even deported from Denmark. (Most Danish Jews fled to Sweden in 1943.)

All of these deportees from Denmark were sent to the ghetto-camp of Theresienstadt (or Terezin) where precisely 51 Danish Jews (mostly elderly) died, all of natural causes.

Thus, even if these 51 are counted as “Holocaust victims,” Jewish “losses” for Denmark were exaggerated approximately 30 times by the supposedly authoritative “Anglo-American Committee,” and 19 times the true figure by Hilberg.