A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him

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[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

it wouldn't be the first time 6 million jews died that century.

Even if those blurry newspaper texts are all real, a newspaper saying that 6 million jewish people were in poverty & hungry is not evidence that the holocaust wasn't real.

That number could just be a coincidence.

I didn't read every single blurry text in that image, but I didn't see any which said 6 million jews died of anything.

But even if 6 million jews died in some 1920s illness (or something) that could still be coincidence, it still wouldn't be evidence that the holocaust was fake.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

You know the 6 million number has significance in Tulmudic Gnosticism, yeah? That's why it appears over and over. It has little bearing on anything in reality. Old thread on the topic:

https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=6017

"Now in the Judaism argument the concept of the 'Guzma' comes of importance. The 'Guzma' is a rabbinical concept, which is used to express the scale of a catastrophe ('shoah'), i.e. the number of jews who have suffered and/or died, in terms related to the tales of the Written Torah. Now the 'Guzma' relies on the Talmud Bavli (I forget the precise citations as the thing is huge) in so far as it calculates the extent of a 'shoah' by taking the number of jews the Bavli says came out of Egypt with Moses in the Torah (600,000) and then multiplies it by a number to express how serious and awful a 'shoah' the event is (from what I've read usually 1 to 10 given that jewish audiences became less accepting of insane figures at least as early as the 19th century). Thus 600,000 x 10 = 6,000,000 (i.e a truly biblical shoah). So in this argument we have rabbis explaining the scale of a 'shoah', which they cannot know, by using the concept of the 'Guzma' to create a number which can then be passed along to other rabbis around the world as a representation of the scale of the 'shoah' which has occurred or is occurring: hence the '6,000,000' claim."

It's religious significance is why such wild claims are made, and good god there are so many. All completely illegal to question in Europe. https://files.catbox.moe/lohtlg.jpg

People like to be thought of as martyrs.

Certainly the Nazi's killed many Jews, by firing squad; many having been involved in communist insurrection. Others were worked to death, and still more died of Typhus and starvation once allies cut the supply lines. Based on census numbers before and after the war, and many other metrics, it was between 2 and 400,000.

There was no concentrated effort however, to exterminate a people that could be put to use to perform labor. The Germans are an efficient people. The jews they killed, died by firearm - not bugspray.

https://files.catbox.moe/ygg1tb.png

The holodomor, by contrast. Was an intentional genocide of Ukranian Christians by Marxist Jews. Unlike the holocaust there is physical evidence and orders, and there were and are millions of bodies as proof. This is a classic case of projecting your crimes upon your enemy. Something the left is still exceedingly good at doing today.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

600,000) and then multiplies it by a number to express how serious and awful a 'shoah' the event is (from what I've read usually 1 to 10 given that jewish audiences became less accepting of insane figures at least as early as the 19th century). Thus 600,000 x 10 = 6,000,000 (i.e a truly biblical shoah).

So, the official Red Cross documented 291,000 figure is just under 0.5 shoah?

That might be the worst "shoah" on record. :-/

[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That entire post is a conspiracy theory.

The many millions of people who disappeared in nazi germany (whether jewish, gay, etc) were killed as proven by all the death camps found, and the nazis were so incredibly evil they were even killing children. There's all sorts of records of them admitting this, and even portraying themselves as compassionate for doing it.

And again, the number of 6m was based off estimates that 6m jewish people disappeared. Even if 6m was a number used before that could just be a coincidence.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

proven by all the death camps found

There is no evidence. Scratch the surface and all you have are "Survivor accounts". What we're allowed to see are carefully filtered to the people making wild claims. Anything else is censored and destroyed.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/0Y7c27fda3wj/

[–]Anticapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

proven by all the death camps found There is no evidence.

Have you literally never seen the photos of the nazi death camps?

Please just look at the images, eg here's some and here's some more.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=fake+death+camp+photos+soviet+propaganda&qpvt=fake+death+camp+photos+soviet+propaganda&FORM=IGRE

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_propaganda

It was no secret that the soviets, americans, and british were all creating anti-nazi "atrocity propaganda" at a massive pace to mobilize their populations for the war. This is part and parcel of all wars. These were Germany's "WMD's": or did you still believe that one too?

[–]Anticapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Even if the soviet's modified some photos, those aren't all soviet. There's lots of American photos, and there's also many videos of the concentration camps.

Just watch the videos of people walking around the concentration camps.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Historians with much more patience than me have poured through such things on a massive scale - there is no there, there. Many of these men have lost their careers and livelyhood pursuing the truth.

I invite you to examine critically the events and "evidence" yourself. Personally, I couldn't accept that such a large event was an artifact of propaganda. So, I went on crusade to prove to myself that surely I was not the crazy one, the people making the claims were.

But now I'm in that position, and you are where I was. Do the investigation, examine the veracity of your evidence...have fun coming to grips with a rewritten 20th century in your world view.

Beyond all other things, reading post-war accounts written in the immediate aftermath of world war 2 are what cleared things up for me. How could all of these accounts of the war leave out, without even a cursory mention; what is today marketed as one of it's largest injustices?

https://files.catbox.moe/0qclyd.png

[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You have made no logical argument that the holocaust did not happen.

How could all of these accounts of the war leave out, without even a cursory mention; what is today marketed as one of it's largest injustices?

You're just assuming, without any evidence, that the holocaust & vanishings were not even mentioned. I've seen them mentioned.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In Patton's memories, in Churchill's memoirs. Where? I've read these things.

You are now resorting to empty claims that you can not substantiate because you are lying. The only claims came from the Soviets.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

blurry newspaper texts

Less blurry for you.

https://saidit.net/s/altrightwebm/comments/tn9/old_newspaper_reads_six_million_jews_died_in_1915/

[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yes I've seen that and I still haven't seen anyone mention anything of importance on it. The fact that there are various estimates, eg 6 million jews in both poland and the ukraine, appear to be nothing but a bunch of coincidences. Same with figures about poverty/etc.

The estimate that the nazis killed 6 million jews came in big part from nazi estimates.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes I've seen that and I still haven't seen anyone mention anything of importance on it.

Obviously you haven't seen it. The video I shared shows the 6 million number used hundreds of times decades before the holocaust.

The fact that there are various estimates, eg 6 million jews in both poland and the ukraine, appear to be nothing but a bunch of coincidences. Same with figures about poverty/etc.

Lol. That's a lot of cohencidences moshe. It's almost as if numbers play an important role in Judaic ritual practices and thus leeches into their propaganda.

The estimate that the nazis killed 6 million jews came in big part from nazi estimates.

Stop repeating this without a source. It won't work here.

[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

. That's a lot of cohencidences

Actually it just has to be one coincidence. Even if the number 6m was used repeatedly by jewish people, it was a nazi estimate of the amount of jewish people they killed.

But many of the numbers brought up repeatedly (eg the estimate that there were 6 million jews in the ukraine) aren't just coincidences but mostly irrelevant coincidences.