A principal in Florida said he couldn't confirm the Holocaust was a 'factual' event. The school district just fired him

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[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Yeah, we have good numbers since the red cross was allowed observers in the camps.

https://truedemocracyparty.net/wp-content/uploads/auschwitz.jpg

Much harder to know how many died in less documented events, like the Holodomor.

https://borgenproject.org/holodomor-genocide/

Source of that image: Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet, explained in the opening pages of the Report that their objective, in the tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality.

[–]Anticapitalist 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

we have good numbers since the red cross was allowed observers in the camps.

The Red Cross said that's bullshit. The Red Cross (the ICRC) denies that they ever made those statistics:

  • "In the 1978 official bulletin, entitled "False Propaganda", the ICRC denounced Holocaust denial and confirmed that the agency "Never published—or even compiled—statistics of this kind which are being falsely attributed to it" and stated that its mission was "to help war victims, not to count them",[84][85][86] and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".[84][86] The agency states that the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed",[84][86] and accordingly bear no relation to the total death tolls,"

— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial

Marou, you are denying the holocaust with out of context info. I see holocaust deniers using that same image all the time.

Maybe you read this from some neo-nazis and didn't realize how vulgar this is, but you are using the very cruel and irrational talking points of nazis.

/u/Buri, thank you for explaining that the holocaust is not a conspiracy theory.

I really hope this website doesn't get taken over by the nazi/kkk people like what happened to voat.

[–]RuckFeddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

wikipedia proves it's real

lmfao

[–]Anticapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

wikipedia proves it's real

No, The Red Cross itself was the source.

Wikipedia just hosted text about this.

[–]RuckFeddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Provide a link then. I read the Wikipedia link and their 1 citation is a random book nobody knows about. (Typical JIDF) Also, the Rothschilds have been involved with the Red Cross since its inception.

[–]Anticapitalist 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

and their 1 citation is a random book nobody knows about.

Wrong. Wiki referenced two books & the ICRC bulletin itself.

Btw, calling a book "random" is not evidence that the Red Cross didn't make the statement.

You can google even more sources for this bulletin, but you'd probably say "all those websites are a conspiracy by the jews and the Rothchilds."

lso, the Rothschilds have been involved with the Red Cross since its inception.

This just another conspiracy theory attempt to deny the holocaust.

[–]RuckFeddit 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

you're probably going to call everything a conspiracy
calls opposing point a conspiracy

this is you

[–]Anticapitalist 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm not the conspiracy person here: the Nazis openly admitted what they did and tried to justify it after the war, eg at the Nuremberg trials.

Nazi police officer:

  • "I made the effort to only shoot children. It so happened that the mothers led the children by the hand. My neighbor then shot the mother and I shot the child that belonged to her. Because I reasoned with myself that after all, without it's mother the child could not live any longer. It was supposed to be, so to speak, soothing to my conscience to release children unable to live without their mother."

— https://youtu.be/O8UzmLsXGRU?t=1165 YouTube

[–]pointyball 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The quote does not apply to Jews. He was talking about Shooting Poles.

[–]Anticapitalist 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The quote does not apply to Jews. He was talking about Shooting Poles.

Just because the police officer was located in poland doesn't imply he wasn't shooting jewish children too.

But I didn't say one counts more than the other:

Either way, the nazis were killing people they viewed as genetically inferior.

[–]RuckFeddit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anyone with a clue knows about the coercion that went on during the Nuremberg trials.

[–]Anticapitalist 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

about the coercion that went on during the Nuremberg trials.

Even if that's true, the Nazis (outside of the trials) also defended their killing of children and genocidal ideology.