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[–]indianusjones 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OK, build the Great Wall of Privilege along the southern border, but obviously that won't solve your H1B visa problem. It's a separate issue entirely.

What do you want from me? I'm telling you the facts. You say, "level up to avoid immigrants." I say, "immigrants are at the top too." The sources are different but the problem and effects are the same.

Sort of. See, I'm under so much pressure to work (knowing that a cheaper H1B will happily take my place) that I simply can't take days off for doctor visits for fear of losing my job. "Rosaritta" has all day.

Honestly this is just sad.

Look, immigrants cause competition, spread disease, depress wages, and consume valuable resources. These are facts.

The response I get is, "oh, they just look different than you, you sad racist." Responses like this that don't address the legitimate facts are part of the problem.

I don't think you understand resource allocation and logistics. I don't think you understand zero-sum economics.

You must address the unfair resource allocation and disease issues before we can continue this conversation and certainly before you, in the face of cold, hard, facts imply that I am racist.

Addendum:

I have ZERO reason to believe there is not an unemployed, undeserving, non-immunized legal citizen, and neither do you

We're not talking about US citizens. I brought up H1B's (openly invited or not) only because "leveling up" was offered as a way to supposedly not be affected by immigration. Unemployed US citizens could be pink, lolipop-sucking unicorns with weird sexual kinks but it's irrelevant for this discussion.

While we're at it, let's get down to brass tacks. The US is a sovereign nation just like Mexico, just like Canada; all have the right to create and enact their laws. Illegal immigration is illegal, period.

So we get this, "oh, so you want to make a great wall of privilege." You're welcome to your opinion and may even have valid points. That's fine.

What you may not do is violate our sovereignty or our laws. If you'd like some law-breaking and some sovereignty violations the US will simply invade Mexico. How would that be?

I realize that the above paragraph is way over the top. I feel strongly that everyone benefits by being good neighbors. The point I'm making is that there are quantifiably good reasons for opposing immigration and in the final analysis the immigration laws are there for good reason.

OK, build the Great Wall of Privilege along the southern border

Now that I'm thinking about it, let's roughly equate illegal immigrants to invaders (bad analogy, I know) and take the position that we should have open borders. If you don't agree it's like saying, "Germany should be permitted to invade France's "Great Wall of Privilege (Maginot Line)." If you disagree you really are just mostly concerned that germans look differently than you do and you're a sad racist."