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[–]HopeThatHalps 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Last I heard the sanctuary cities were welcoming immigrants.

What I hate more than anything about the MAGA Rightists is that they just make shit up. Whatever they wish were true, is as good as true. Liberal = socialist, good as true. Social programs never work, might as well be true. For-profit ventures can solve everything, immigrants are dangerous, the press is enemy of the people, it all might as well be true!

[–]useless_aether[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/cher-appears-to-switch-sides-on-mass-immigration-questions-californias-inability-to-take-care-of-its-own

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

But what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?

[–]indianusjones 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The implication (backed by evidence) is that an influx of population in L.A., a sanctuary city, will only exacerbate LA's poverty problem and burden on public services.

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Nevertheless, https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjU4tv5ltXhAhUFvJ4KHZevC3IQzPwBCAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.axios.com%2Fwhat-theyre-saying-mayors-sanctuary-cities-welcome-trumps-latest-immigration-idea-1829d5c7-6577-4644-8f40-bb582003da86.html&psig=AOvVaw2-TMvTjnN-TodVt3OYx6OE&ust=1555523557136146

[–]indianusjones 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Notice that these responses are from politicians with an observable agenda, that is, the Latino vote.

See my previous Gallup pole link above for what citizens think.

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It doesn't matter, the fact is that OP's meme is incorrect.

[–]indianusjones 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It doesn't matter, the fact is that OP's meme is incorrect.

But why is OP's meme incorrect? That's the point of this entire thread--you must justify your position.

If we're moving away now from the politician's response to the original post we're now in red herring argument fallacy territory because you've shifted the argument.

Are you now understanding why opponents on both sides of most debates get frustrated when people say, "it doesn't matter, (distraction here)" or say, "embryos are humans too" without providing evidence for that fact?!!?

Is your post a troll? Did I not point to evidence to the contrary?

How can you read through this entire thread and not know that you need supporting evidence for your claim? Stupid? Lazy? Please help me understand.

[–]HopeThatHalps 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But why is OP's meme incorrect?

OP's meme is not a friendly call for debate, it's an accusation of liberals being hypocrites. It's demonstrably wrong, it's pathetic, end of story.

[–]indianusjones 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it's pathetic, end of story

Oh, no, we don't get off that easy.

OP's meme is not a friendly call for debate, it's an accusation of liberals being hypocrites.

Again, we didn't offer evidence for this claim...we could easily verify whether or not you are correct by simply asking the author.

Let's say for the sake of discussion you're right. Yes, under this premise, the meme is not friendly and yes, it's an accusation of liberals being hypocrites.

But that doesn't mean he's wrong.

It's conjecture here that if we flat-out asked liberals whether or not they welcome more immagrants in their city they would likely say, "yes."

But if we asked them in a poll about topics we know are a direct result of immigration (remember, we had mass immigration in the 1880's, the 1920's, and since the 1970's), we're going to find they don't want the fallout from an influx of immigration.

So, ideologically the liberals want immigration but ideology doesn't put food on the table.

Again, I ask the next time you post that you provide facts to support and don't give me this bullshit:

it's pathetic, end of story