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[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

[–]sawboss 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

It's not accurately framed, I'll give you that. Capitalism alone isn't what makes people free and happy. Only individual liberty can do that. Capitalism works just fine in fascist states. Just look at the USA for an example.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Plenty of liberty in Mexico. Probably more in certain aspects...

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, fully agreed.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Gimme some examples.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Zoning laws are much less restrictive.
You can make changes to your home or land as you like. You can get prescription medication like antibiotics (I'm taking to all the preppers :-) at any pharmacy without a prescription; excluding controlled substances. .
Most local law are less generally restrictive.

I feel at ease in Mexico. People are paranoid about cartels, but they are only concerned with those who interfere with their profits/operations, so they couldn't care less about what you do; assuming you don't mess with them. It's not a legit concern.

[–]sawboss 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm inclined to blame the cartels on America's retarded drug war.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. They wouldn't be in the drug business is drugs weren't illegal for the bogus drug war.

The war on drugs was never actually combating the use of drugs. If you need evidence of of this fact, then here it is...

Top adviser to Richard Nixon admitted that ‘War on Drugs’ was policy tool to go after anti-war protesters and ‘black people’ .

No one decides not to do heroin, because they can't find it. They avoid it cause it's bad news, and life is going alright.
The drug war mostly hurts those who already have life problems.
It also hurts those whom the FBI and police set up, by planting drugs on them....

And Central and South Americans who get caught up in America's fraudulent "wars".

[–]Zombi 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, for the people that aren't dirt poor, which isn't a lot of people.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Are you suggesting that this system isn't working for some people?

[–]Zombi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm suggesting that mexico isn't really all that great lol. It's great for the rich, not much different than america.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Agreed. However, both can be influenced.

People can improve their own lives. It's easier for some, than others...

Unlike being Philippino in the UAE. They're screwed.

[–]Zombi 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, except rich in mexico is middle class for americans and poor in mexico is human rights abuse for americans.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a tragic fact.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

tldr?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Honduras is a capitalist society. Plenty of flight from there.

Mexico? Also capitalist...

Pretty much every central American nation.

Plenty of fleeing going on, bro...

:-/.

I'm not condemning capitalism. I simply enjoy finding exceptions to everyone's rules... :-)

[–]useless_aether[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the pont is, they are not fleeing to commie cuba and venezuela

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Fair enough. ;-)

Some of the black panther leadership fled the US under the very real threat if assassination; to Cuba and Africa in the 70's.

Clearly, they would not be considered economic refugees. I would probably classify them as apartheid refugees.
The drug war was in large part created, so that contraband could be planted on them to destroy their organization. Legislative activism at it's worst.

[–]fizzyj 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Scandinavia disagress with you

[–]useless_aether[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

there are no socialist countries in scandinavia

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

lol

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Um, Americans come to Canada all the fucking time.