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[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

The mass murderer was a mormon. Homophobia is strongest in repressed homosexuals.

And they are certainly homophobic

But I note that their parents both referred to their son as "he", and this is the first time he has identified as transgender that I can find.

But certainly people who suffer from gender dysphoria who have not transitioned have a higher proportion of mental problems that the population at large, or those people once they transition.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Homophobia is strongest in repressed homosexuals.

Absolutely not and this is such a damaging myth. It just seems to be a way to push the problem of homophobia onto homosexuals themselves.

The shooter is clearly just attempting to avoid hate crime charges by identifying as non-binary since that doesn't require any kind of transition and anyone can claim the label.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Absolutely not and this is such a damaging myth.

Okay.

Here's a paper showing that homophobia is associated with homosexual arousal.

Where's the science behind your claim "Absolutely not"?

Then I think the other claims you've made bear discussing.

The shooter is clearly just attempting to avoid hate crime charges by identifying as non-binary since that doesn't require any kind of transition and anyone can claim the label.

Not impossibly. I can't find any indication that he identified as non-binary prior to his defence lawyers claiming that in their filings. Shooting a bunch of people dead and getting pistol whipped to hospitalisation with your own pistol seem an unlikely therapy to find your true gender: But I'm no psychologist.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

They're just getting off on the hatred. They're bisexual and end up going back to the women they prefer. Homosexual males, males who are born 100% homosexual, are notably non-violent people and actually face hatred for their femininity, sensitivity, and timidity.

people who suffer from gender dysphoria who have not transitioned have a higher proportion of mental problems that the population at large, or those people once they transition.

---- I wanted to address this too, because the claim that people with gender dysphoria who don't transition have more mental problems is also baseless.

I'm assuming you saw this study?

Perhaps you missed the correction: “the results demonstrated no advantage of surgery in relation to subsequent mood or anxiety disorder-related health care.”

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[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm assuming you saw this study?

There was a meta-analysis of all the research to date earlier this year.

They included 53 studies, the conclusion is:

This review supports the need for more sustainable and accessible gender-affirming surgery as a means for improving the mental health and overall QoL among transgender individuals and indicates the need for further research with greater methodological rigor focusing on correlates of positive gender-affirming surgical outcomes. Without social, legal, and public policy responses to transgender discrimination, marginalization and exclusion, the beneficial outcomes of improved gender-affirming surgery will remain unclear.

So i think there is a base for the claim that gender affirming surgery, which is part of transitioning, does improve mental health and quality of life. The current evidence seems to be that discrimination, marginalization and exclusion are clouding the issue.

Not to say that there were no papers that found no benefit, such as the one you cite, but many more of the papers found a reduction in in depression, suicidality and anxiety than found no benefit: Including some that found post GAS sudicidality was reduced to that of the patient's cis peers.

[–]cars 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Most trans research is of ghastly poor quality. First, the studies are over a very short timespan, and so we have no idea whether transitioning improves people's lives in the long-term (beyond 2-5 years). Second, these studies suffer from lack of follow up because most people who regret transitioning cut ties with their gender therapists and gender surgeons or they join the 41%. People may be happy once they begin transitioning because they wanted to transition for so long and it's a new, fun, exciting experience, but in 5-7 years, once all that has worn off, we begin to see regret.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Longer studies will come with time.

But from what we know now, it looks like regret is a tiny minority of cases.

[–]cars 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Given how ideologically captured the field of trans medicine is, and that there are several people -- including trans people -- who are concerned about transition regret, we can't keep going on like this. Dysphoria treatments need to change.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Given how ideologically captured the field of trans medicine is, and that there are several people -- including trans people -- who are concerned about transition regret, we can't keep going on like this.

So look at the studies on transition regret. You're still getting a tiny minority. Yes, you need to be careful about the diagnosis, which is what puberty blockers are all about.

Dysphoria treatments need to change.

Because it only improves the health and quality of life of 95% of patients? You'd be against treatment for aggressive cancers?

[–]cars 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The studies on transition regret don't include detransitioners because they ask for people who currently identify as trans, which detransitioners don't. What those studies call "detransition" means stopping HRT at one point or another -- not accepting yourself as your biological sex, which is what detransition is. Because we don't know the regret rate, we can't say transitioning improves quality of life for any number of patients.

Puberty blockers aren't this magical pause button either; they stunt important development. Puberty is about a lot more than developing secondary sex characteristics and becoming fertile -- it's about the brain maturing and developing as well. Puberty blockers stunt brain growth to the extent that they have been linked to drops in IQ points and immature, childish behaviour that these trans kids don't grow out of. The exogenous hormones just attempt to produce different secondary sex characteristics; they do nothing to mature the brain. All puberty blockers do is make adults who have the brains and bodies of children, which is what pedophiles and predators want.