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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Ha! 😄

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (104 children)

The mass murderer was a mormon. Homophobia is strongest in repressed homosexuals.

And they are certainly homophobic

But I note that their parents both referred to their son as "he", and this is the first time he has identified as transgender that I can find.

But certainly people who suffer from gender dysphoria who have not transitioned have a higher proportion of mental problems that the population at large, or those people once they transition.

[–]Vulptex 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (65 children)

People with gender dysphoria have a VASTLY higher proportion of mental problems even after they transition. Transition doesn't work so it doesn't help much, unless you're extremely lucky, and if it's a flop it can in fact make things even worse. Plus, let's not forget that gender dysphoria is tightly coupled with a ton of mental illnesses, and the stress of living that way triggers even more. We're lab rats.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (64 children)

Transition doesn't work so it doesn't help,

That's wrong.

Either you know this or you should look at some of the literature. There's shitloads of it now.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/article-abstract/2789433

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7894249/

[–]jet199[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

All bad science.

Jack Turban actually reported different results than his study showed.

https://www.city-journal.org/major-flaws-in-new-study-on-pediatric-gender-transition

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That article is about none of the three papers that i linked, mate.

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (61 children)

Do you realize you're telling me I don't know my own woes? I was born one sex, developed one sex, solidified as one sex, and now the most I can get is a select few additions from the other puberty. And I cannot attain the most important thing, which is undoing the hell of my current feature set. Not to mention the amount of money and time and pain and dependence it requires, which never goes away. It's almost easier to just deal with what I have now than to turn into a mangled mess.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (60 children)

Do you realize you're telling me I don't know my own woes?

No I didn't realise that.

It's almost easier to just deal with what I have now than to turn into a mangled mess.

A lot of people end up making that call. But the dysphoria itself is stronger in some transexuals than others.

What motivates you to hang out on a basically trans-hating website?

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Because it's not run by trans haters. Meanwhile I am reddit's #1 most wanted because I connected the dots about "default mods". And when I say they took extreme measures too keep me away...I mean they designed a user detection algorithm which shouldn't even be possible and was probably specifically for me. And some of the craziest cabal members like Bardfinn called me and several others literal terrorists for participating in /r/WatchRedditDie and being libertarian.

Besides, I really can't blame most people for hating trans people. Their reasons for doing so are entirely the fault of the trans agenda. Just look at it.

[–]Newzok 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I think most people are fine with trans people, even here, it's just the identity politics and culture war grandstanding people hate. Ie the media campaign...

And for someone in the know, what's the deal with reddit mods and other big tech companies being nazi about this? It's so coordinated.

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Most people think that's what trans means. And indeed, the TRA movement has put themselves in that position, clearly taking a political side, and being "affirming" to illogical extremes, causing them to support men in womens' sports, stalkers, pedophiles, sexism, reality denial, and censorship. Anyone who has the slightest disagreement is "transphobic". At this point gender dysphoria itself is transphobic, because it goes against the "gender is a social construct" narrative.

Reddit and almost all big tech is based in San Francisco, an ultra-libtard area. The deep state regularly gives these CEOs a monopoly because it helps all of them expand their power. When people take notice, they blame it on a lack of government intervention, and say to fix it we need to give them even more power. The cycle repeats until we're living under full-blown communism.

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Another thing about reddit is besides politics, the admins have a cabal of their personal friends controlling all the large and default subreddits. The amount of favoritism they give them is off the charts, and they bulldoze anyone who stands in the way. I caught on to it when I noticed that the only people who were consistently able to get to the front page and the top of comment chains, or grow successful subreddits, were the same people in this particular clique. Which turns out to have multiple secret chats with the admins, a claim they deny but which has been proven many times and they have even let it slip on a number of occasions. They disguise it as a place for default mods to discuss boring stuff, but they already have a private subreddit for moderators. No, rather the way you become a default mod is by joining their clique, and thereby get access to all of their secret stuff. It's "technically" not a collusion subreddit. And people who join suddenly begin appearing everywhere on reddit, their subreddits boom inexplicably, their karma shoots way up, and they become a moderator of hundreds of huge subreddits, and the admins suddenly start engaging with them. When you point out any of this, they attack you and silence you and call you crazy. The cronyism isn't as bad anymore, it's more just generic corruption. But until the last few years it was rampant. I can trace it all the way back to karmanaut.

[–]Newzok 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I do not doubt it at all. Best to stay away from anything with more than 25000 members...

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's very similar on Wikipedia.

ZZZTheyZZZ control the main platforms.

[–]MightyMorphinFaggot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"Be proud of yourself", "accept me for me", "everyone is born beautiful", "love yourself for who you are".

Yeh unless you're a trans fag then all that goes straight out the window. Now saying you're a good looking woman is sexist because you feel like a man and you can't dead name them REEEEEEEE.

Whole thing is a joke lol.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Meanwhile I am reddit's #1 most wanted because I connected the dots about "default mods"

What picture does connecting the dots about default mods draw?

[–]Vulptex 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They're like reddit's Illuminati. Except they're actually real.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I mean they designed a user detection algorithm which shouldn't even be possible and was probably specifically for me.

You're confident it wasn't your IP address?

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

It couldn't have been. I was anonymizing everything.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Using a VPN?

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I have used a VPN. I've used multiple different methods to cover my tracks. None of them worked. Even TOR didn't work.

[–]Musky 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (40 children)

Hahaha, you were trying to tell a gender dysphoric person how things were and got owned. How does anyone not know Vulpie?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (39 children)

He's (?) incorrect about transitioning not "working", if working means improving mental health.

But transitioning means living as your gender. Reassignment surgery doesn't have great outcomes for sexual function.

How does anyone not know Vulpie?

There's 8 billion people in the world. In round numbers about 8 billion of them haven't heard of vulpie, because they're not as globally famous as you claim.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

How can you live as a gender you can't be?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It helps if you pass. That means controlling estrogens and androgens while going through puberty, so it's difficult to retrofit.

But people do the best they can. If you live around people like the ones on saidit, they will present problems that maybe you don't want to deal with. But many places most people will get the idea.

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Passing might help cement a denial of reality by convincing others of it, but it won't get my mind back or free me of much dysphoria or fix anything internal.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (31 children)

He's (?) incorrect about transitioning not "working", if working means improving mental health

I bet that's going to age well.

Let me ask you something, if we find out in 10 years the trannies are all just mentally ill and sterilizing them was unethical, would you feel bad for advocating it?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

It's been more than 10 years. The best treatment we have is supporting them to transition to live as the gender they are.

Sterilization doesn't have to be a part of that.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

It's been more than 10 years

In terms of understanding the psychological and social impact of encouraging people to transition, 10 years is early days. We are only now being allowed to see the horror stories and tales of regret on mainstream media without it being censored or called anti-trans.

The best treatment we have is supporting them to transition

It's not the best treatment for body integrity identity disorder to allow them to amputate their limbs. It is also not the best treatment for schizophrenics to encourage them to do what the voices tell them. Mental health problems have never been successfully treated by encouraging physical alterations that result in permanent inability to reproduce and has reduced lifespan by decades.

to live as the gender they are.

To live as the gender they want to be, or believe they should be.

Sterilization doesn't have to be a part of that.

This has literally been the push from governments, medical institutions, specialists, activist groups and woke parents who wish they had a girl instead of a boy.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it does. There's no way to avoid being sterilized even without SRS. You'd have to switch sexes for real.

[–]Musky 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Gender reassignment surgery has been around, but we have never had a transgender fad, or so many organizations and institutions push kids towards transgenderism before. We can see the trend, I believe, already beginning in the r/detrans subscriber count.

Sterilization doesn't have to be a part of that.

Sometimes it's just lopping off a nice pair of breasts or adding ridiculous looking fake breasts to a man.

You didn't answer my question.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Homophobia is strongest in repressed homosexuals.

Absolutely not and this is such a damaging myth. It just seems to be a way to push the problem of homophobia onto homosexuals themselves.

The shooter is clearly just attempting to avoid hate crime charges by identifying as non-binary since that doesn't require any kind of transition and anyone can claim the label.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The shooter is clearly just attempting to avoid hate crime charges by identifying as non-binary since that doesn't require any kind of transition and anyone can claim the label.

Sounds like the trans are in a gender checkmate, this a smart move by the lawyer. How can he be guilty of a hate crime against a group he is part of, since anyone can identify as anything they want at anytime and nobody can ever question it according to them.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How can he be guilty of a hate crime against a group he is part of

It doesn't look like a defence. If the articles I have read about him using slurs against homosexuals are brought in front of the court, and that convinces the jury that that contributed to his crimes, he'll get 5 times 1-3 years for bias-motivated crime on top of five times life in prison for murder 1.

this a smart move by the lawyer.

It will make no real difference.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Absolutely not and this is such a damaging myth.

Okay.

Here's a paper showing that homophobia is associated with homosexual arousal.

Where's the science behind your claim "Absolutely not"?

Then I think the other claims you've made bear discussing.

The shooter is clearly just attempting to avoid hate crime charges by identifying as non-binary since that doesn't require any kind of transition and anyone can claim the label.

Not impossibly. I can't find any indication that he identified as non-binary prior to his defence lawyers claiming that in their filings. Shooting a bunch of people dead and getting pistol whipped to hospitalisation with your own pistol seem an unlikely therapy to find your true gender: But I'm no psychologist.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

They're just getting off on the hatred. They're bisexual and end up going back to the women they prefer. Homosexual males, males who are born 100% homosexual, are notably non-violent people and actually face hatred for their femininity, sensitivity, and timidity.

people who suffer from gender dysphoria who have not transitioned have a higher proportion of mental problems that the population at large, or those people once they transition.

---- I wanted to address this too, because the claim that people with gender dysphoria who don't transition have more mental problems is also baseless.

I'm assuming you saw this study?

Perhaps you missed the correction: “the results demonstrated no advantage of surgery in relation to subsequent mood or anxiety disorder-related health care.”

edit: ----

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm assuming you saw this study?

There was a meta-analysis of all the research to date earlier this year.

They included 53 studies, the conclusion is:

This review supports the need for more sustainable and accessible gender-affirming surgery as a means for improving the mental health and overall QoL among transgender individuals and indicates the need for further research with greater methodological rigor focusing on correlates of positive gender-affirming surgical outcomes. Without social, legal, and public policy responses to transgender discrimination, marginalization and exclusion, the beneficial outcomes of improved gender-affirming surgery will remain unclear.

So i think there is a base for the claim that gender affirming surgery, which is part of transitioning, does improve mental health and quality of life. The current evidence seems to be that discrimination, marginalization and exclusion are clouding the issue.

Not to say that there were no papers that found no benefit, such as the one you cite, but many more of the papers found a reduction in in depression, suicidality and anxiety than found no benefit: Including some that found post GAS sudicidality was reduced to that of the patient's cis peers.

[–]cars 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Most trans research is of ghastly poor quality. First, the studies are over a very short timespan, and so we have no idea whether transitioning improves people's lives in the long-term (beyond 2-5 years). Second, these studies suffer from lack of follow up because most people who regret transitioning cut ties with their gender therapists and gender surgeons or they join the 41%. People may be happy once they begin transitioning because they wanted to transition for so long and it's a new, fun, exciting experience, but in 5-7 years, once all that has worn off, we begin to see regret.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Longer studies will come with time.

But from what we know now, it looks like regret is a tiny minority of cases.

[–]cars 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Given how ideologically captured the field of trans medicine is, and that there are several people -- including trans people -- who are concerned about transition regret, we can't keep going on like this. Dysphoria treatments need to change.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Given how ideologically captured the field of trans medicine is, and that there are several people -- including trans people -- who are concerned about transition regret, we can't keep going on like this.

So look at the studies on transition regret. You're still getting a tiny minority. Yes, you need to be careful about the diagnosis, which is what puberty blockers are all about.

Dysphoria treatments need to change.

Because it only improves the health and quality of life of 95% of patients? You'd be against treatment for aggressive cancers?

[–]cars 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The studies on transition regret don't include detransitioners because they ask for people who currently identify as trans, which detransitioners don't. What those studies call "detransition" means stopping HRT at one point or another -- not accepting yourself as your biological sex, which is what detransition is. Because we don't know the regret rate, we can't say transitioning improves quality of life for any number of patients.

Puberty blockers aren't this magical pause button either; they stunt important development. Puberty is about a lot more than developing secondary sex characteristics and becoming fertile -- it's about the brain maturing and developing as well. Puberty blockers stunt brain growth to the extent that they have been linked to drops in IQ points and immature, childish behaviour that these trans kids don't grow out of. The exogenous hormones just attempt to produce different secondary sex characteristics; they do nothing to mature the brain. All puberty blockers do is make adults who have the brains and bodies of children, which is what pedophiles and predators want.

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    [–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

    Yeah. Funny how you can claim to be pro-life, and then whenever there's a mass shooting see the only possible solution as more guns.

    [–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

    More guns for the good guys, bad guys don't follow gun laws.

    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

    Gun laws make it difficult for bad guys to get guns.

    [–]Musky 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    Fuck no dude, you can buy a gun off Snapchat, no paperwork, just cash.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    That's because there are insufficient gun controls.

    The problem is the guy on snapchat has too many guns.

    It's harder to buy surface to air missiles on snapchat, and that's because they're better controlled.

    [–]Musky 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    I get you just want to feel safe, and you think this will do it, but we aren't Australia. The criminals here will always be able to get whatever kind of gun they want, whenever they want it. You're just disarming the good guys.

    Also, you have disturbing views on transing children. That's worse.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    I get you just want to feel safe, and you think this will do it, but we aren't Australia.

    What makes you think that?

    Also, you have disturbing views on transing children. That's worse.

    Most people would say that your views on transing children are more disturbing. Condemning a person to go through puberty a the incorrect gender is condemning them to a life of gender dysphoria. If you think that's okay, either you don't get what gender dysphoria does, or your enjoyment of the lifelong suffering of others brings colours any discussion you might have on ethics.

    [–]Musky 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    What makes you think that?

    Why would you ban guns if not for safety?

    Most people would say that your views on transing children are more disturbing

    That is incorrect, public sentiment is largely against gender transitions for children. The overall majority of Americans, 72.7% view it unfavorably.

    It just seems like there's a lot of support from these forever online trannies shrieking all the time.

    incorrect gender

    There isn't a correct or incorrect gender, you're just born to one and that's it. We don't get a say in it.

    condemning them to a life of gender dysphoria

    Surgery doesn't fix dysphoria. Even before the tranny nonsense, there were issues with plastic surgeons preying on these people. They will take your money and chop you up, even if nobody can see what you "know" is wrong. And it's still wrong after surgery. My own brother went through that.