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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, you'll find safe havens in each country that hasn't succumb to the worst of modern liberalism, trans ideology and immigrant crime. I'd still argue that the governance of Britain remains superior, albeit still somewhat corrupt and deserving of criticism, than that of America. There are many in the general US population who have been sufficiently brainwashed into believing that their government is a positive force on the world when they are really oppressive war mongering bullies afraid of losing the petrodollar, in the pocket of China and XiPings social credit score system. If I had to pick either, I'd probably opt for neither. Besides, the weather is far superior in the Mediterranean 😎

[–]RedEyedWarrior 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

That’s true. American conservatives have this delusion that their country is a force for good, when obviously it’s not. Whereas American liberals hate their country for the wrong reasons. Not helping is that most American conservatives are still convinced that the police and the military are on their side. British conservatives despise their government because they see the truth, and they know not to trust the police or the military.

Both countries are doing better than Ireland. In Ireland, we have "conservative" political parties in our government, who might as well be the US Democratic Party. Right now they are undermining our country’s neutrality. They call our main opposition party, Sinn Féin, right wing like Victor Orbán's party in Hungary. Except that Sinn Féin are a left wing Marxist party. I guess in this current political climate being against America and being neutral towards Russia makes you right wing.

If I had to pick and Ireland was too far gone to repair, I’d probably move somewhere other than the US or the UK. If language barrier wasn’t an issue, I’d pick Hungary. I was in Budapest a few years ago and it was amazing. I love their architecture, their spa baths, their castles and the men are hot. Maybe Greece as well, but they are incredibly disorganised and cucked in some ways. But I love their food, their architecture, their climate and their islands.