Just Another Day in the USA

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    [–]Davethe_blank_ 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    ok, you can act like that's not where we are heading, but the rest of us are paying attention and the POTUS just called half the country a threat to democracy. Where else can we go, except for full dictator from here?

    [–]FozzieBear 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    the POTUS just called half the country a threat to democracy.

    I keep hearing this, which is obviously disinformation. Biden addressed MAGAtard extremist simps for a Trumpist fascist dictatorship. The main problem is the misinformation that developsfascist MAGAtards. That portion of the US is closer to 10% or 20% at best. Hardly any of those people attend protests, or visit communities.win or Saidit, or have any significant presence in most of the country. Some of those dumbasses elected fascist politicians in red states, where they remain among the poorest people in the country. Recent surveys show that less than half of GOP voters would support Trump in 2024. More info:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/02/trump-republicans-biden-maga/

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/actual-trump-support/index.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/us/politics/trump-approval-polling-2024.html

    https://www.voanews.com/a/poll-fewer-than-half-of-republican-primary-voters-would-support-trump-in-2024/6656498.html

    https://www.quora.com/How-many-die-hard-Trump-supporters-are-there-percentage-wise-in-the-US

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    Recent surveys show that less than half of GOP voters would support Trump in 2024. More info:

    Yes, I saw that...but...I'm not sure thats the takeaway I had. The next closest was DeSantis with roughly 1/4 support. It was a pick one candidate scenario and Trump had twice as much support as the next closest candidate being the favorite of nearly half the party. Its nearly 3/4 of the respondents between the two of them, nobody else really has any traction. My takeaway from this was that unfortunately Trump is likely to be the nominee again

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I'm kind of surprised the Republicans prefer Trump, DeSantis is at least not a complete buffoon, he seems to be quite intelligent (I'd view him as significantly more formidable of an adversary than Trump).

      Then again, the articles on that poll mention that DeSantis is heavily favored by educated GOP voters, and Trump by uneducated voters. Clearly uneducated GOP voters are making up a significant majority. Not that that is a bad thing in of itself, the Democrats have long prided themselves on being the party of the working class, although the voter demographics seem to be swinging

      [–]Insider 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      It's not about what the Republicans prefer, it's about what the oligarchs and CIA prefer.

      Having moderate Republicans also isn't polarizing enough. Democrats are funding Trump candidates. This way the "educated GOP" and sheep will vote for moderate Democrats and not some third party, as letting Trump win would be a bigger evil.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2022/democrat-ad-spending-republican-trump/

      https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/07/democrats-spend-millions-on-republican-primaries/

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/07/democrats-boosted-extremists-republican-primaries-was-that-wise

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      Having moderate Republicans also isn't polarizing enough. Democrats are funding Trump candidates.

      Yes. I also made this point to Fozzie yesterday regarding the relevance to Biden's speech. It isn't consistent to claim MAGA is a threat to democracy on the one hand, and then go and back all the MAGA candidates financially on the other

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      DeSantis

      He got real rich in office.

      [–]Maniak 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      You're doing a great job at rehashing what you're being told to rehash. Congrats.

      Now, if you ever have some time available, try to look up those two words that you clearly like to use, whether because you do or because you were told to:

      • retard

      • fascist

      Because you seem to very confused on both.

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        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        😮

        [–]Davethe_blank_ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I don't care if it's 1% of the population. To put into perspective for you, lets just change some terms and people.

        If Trump had a speech with that kind of backdrop, with military in the back ground, and then called LGBTQ people the greatest threat to democracy ever, how do you think people would react? Or just black people? Or Mexicans? Or just bull dyke lesbians. The media and the left would go ape shit. They would start impeachments, there would be death threats on twitter, all for speaking about a small minority of people.

        Now I don't give a fuck if you like Trumpers or not, but they are Americans and they belong in the discourse whether you like it or not. They have shown to be a force that better be paid attention to. Not demonized, but their concerns heard.

        All your links can go un-read.