Just Another Day in the USA

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Relatable

[–]filbs111 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The reeducation camps will have a lot of fun people in though. And the "real world" will be like living in a prison anyway.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

They won't be fun once they're out, or have you not watched or read 1984?

[–]sushipark34 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

don't lynch me ((ヽ(๑╹◡╹๑)ﾉ))♬

[–]kingsmeg 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Ask an atheist. They have thousands of years' practice staying incognito for fear of being burnt alive.

[–]Rastafoo[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao what planet are you on? XD

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    [–]Davethe_blank_ 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

    ok, you can act like that's not where we are heading, but the rest of us are paying attention and the POTUS just called half the country a threat to democracy. Where else can we go, except for full dictator from here?

    [–]TarBaby 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Biden is a communist dictator who ruined the US economy.

    [–]FozzieBear 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

    the POTUS just called half the country a threat to democracy.

    I keep hearing this, which is obviously disinformation. Biden addressed MAGAtard extremist simps for a Trumpist fascist dictatorship. The main problem is the misinformation that developsfascist MAGAtards. That portion of the US is closer to 10% or 20% at best. Hardly any of those people attend protests, or visit communities.win or Saidit, or have any significant presence in most of the country. Some of those dumbasses elected fascist politicians in red states, where they remain among the poorest people in the country. Recent surveys show that less than half of GOP voters would support Trump in 2024. More info:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/02/trump-republicans-biden-maga/

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/politics/actual-trump-support/index.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/12/us/politics/trump-approval-polling-2024.html

    https://www.voanews.com/a/poll-fewer-than-half-of-republican-primary-voters-would-support-trump-in-2024/6656498.html

    https://www.quora.com/How-many-die-hard-Trump-supporters-are-there-percentage-wise-in-the-US

    [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Recent surveys show that less than half of GOP voters would support Trump in 2024. More info:

    Yes, I saw that...but...I'm not sure thats the takeaway I had. The next closest was DeSantis with roughly 1/4 support. It was a pick one candidate scenario and Trump had twice as much support as the next closest candidate being the favorite of nearly half the party. Its nearly 3/4 of the respondents between the two of them, nobody else really has any traction. My takeaway from this was that unfortunately Trump is likely to be the nominee again

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      I'm kind of surprised the Republicans prefer Trump, DeSantis is at least not a complete buffoon, he seems to be quite intelligent (I'd view him as significantly more formidable of an adversary than Trump).

      Then again, the articles on that poll mention that DeSantis is heavily favored by educated GOP voters, and Trump by uneducated voters. Clearly uneducated GOP voters are making up a significant majority. Not that that is a bad thing in of itself, the Democrats have long prided themselves on being the party of the working class, although the voter demographics seem to be swinging

      [–]Insider 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      It's not about what the Republicans prefer, it's about what the oligarchs and CIA prefer.

      Having moderate Republicans also isn't polarizing enough. Democrats are funding Trump candidates. This way the "educated GOP" and sheep will vote for moderate Democrats and not some third party, as letting Trump win would be a bigger evil.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/interactive/2022/democrat-ad-spending-republican-trump/

      https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2022/07/democrats-spend-millions-on-republican-primaries/

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/07/democrats-boosted-extremists-republican-primaries-was-that-wise

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Having moderate Republicans also isn't polarizing enough. Democrats are funding Trump candidates.

      Yes. I also made this point to Fozzie yesterday regarding the relevance to Biden's speech. It isn't consistent to claim MAGA is a threat to democracy on the one hand, and then go and back all the MAGA candidates financially on the other

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      DeSantis

      He got real rich in office.

      [–]Maniak 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      You're doing a great job at rehashing what you're being told to rehash. Congrats.

      Now, if you ever have some time available, try to look up those two words that you clearly like to use, whether because you do or because you were told to:

      • retard

      • fascist

      Because you seem to very confused on both.

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        [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        😮

        [–]Davethe_blank_ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I don't care if it's 1% of the population. To put into perspective for you, lets just change some terms and people.

        If Trump had a speech with that kind of backdrop, with military in the back ground, and then called LGBTQ people the greatest threat to democracy ever, how do you think people would react? Or just black people? Or Mexicans? Or just bull dyke lesbians. The media and the left would go ape shit. They would start impeachments, there would be death threats on twitter, all for speaking about a small minority of people.

        Now I don't give a fuck if you like Trumpers or not, but they are Americans and they belong in the discourse whether you like it or not. They have shown to be a force that better be paid attention to. Not demonized, but their concerns heard.

        All your links can go un-read.

        [–]Maniak 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

        It's called television.

        If you can't see it, it's because you're watching it.

        [–]FozzieBear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        It's not.

        Nor is it a camp

        And

        42% of Americans stated that their household was currently subscribed to a cable service, among many more who did not respond to the survey: https://www.statista.com/statistics/612660/paid-services-broadcast-vod-programming-north-america/

        85% of US households have a video subscription service : https://www.kantar.com/north-america/inspiration/technology/85-per-cent-of-us-households-have-a-video-subscription-service

        87% of American households own at least one internet-connected TV device: https://www.statista.com/statistics/294654/connected-tv-penetration-rate-usa/

        In the US, there was an estimated 119.9 million TV households (of 123.6 million US households) in the TV season 2018/19: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_consumption (97% of US households have a TV)

        [–]TarBaby 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        In neighborhoods, schools, universities, and anywhere SJWs are they run re-education camps. If you are not re-educated you are canceled.

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          [–]TarBaby 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          It is a prison planet. You are in a prison without knowing it.

          [–]Insider 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          They're not in the US, ppl are MK Ultra'd from birth. There's no need for re-education.

          US-run re-education camps were in Afghanistan and Syria where they trained brown ppl to adopt the radical, fake version of Islamic faith.

          [–]L_X_A 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

          Where are these "re-education camps" in the US?

          In your workplace.

          Virtually all Fortune 500 companies employ diversity and inclusivity training, and there is an orchestrated effort to apply them more broadly and make them continuously more effective. (see also: PWC survey)

          Disciplinary action is now the norm to compel employees to be re-educated for wrongthink [1] [2] [3]

          And yeah, the "pretending to be indoctrinated enough" is a real thing. People are afraid of speaking out against woke ideology in their workplace, and are actively avoiding situations where they could be targeted by the woke mob.

          [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          And schools, for those unfortunate enough to be that age.

          [–]FozzieBear 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Fortune 500 companies employ diversity and inclusivity training

          My experience with this is that I was required to watch Title IX and Diversity Awareness videos and related videos, and then answer quiz questions afterward. The process for each video/quiz was 3 hours. And if I got anything wrong, I would have to re-taake the same quiz. Perhaps others are required to attend in-person meetings for 2 or 3 hours.

          But this happens ONCE at the job - for each type of 3-hour training. I learned about what the lawyers required me to know in the workplace. It was not a 'camp' and it did not change my personal opinions, nor did I feel indoctrinated, and it was relatively brief training that I've somewhat forgotten by now, several years later. The main focus of the treaining sessions was to address legal requirements of the company and human resources at the company. For Title IX, I was required not to grope women, among other important requirements. I think I can avoid groping. Not a problem. For the Diversity Awareness training, I was required to be aware of types of racism in the workplace, and to avoid acting in a racist manner in the workplace. The company can require me to not be racist or sexist in the workplace. When I get home I can be as racist and sexist as I'd like to be.

          Thanks for the informative response. I and others are annoyed with the training sessions. I am not sure that inclusive policies at companies indoctrinate people in the manner suggested in the meme.

          Something we might agree on is that this part of the training is REALLY annoying:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microaggression

          [–]L_X_A 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

          Well, the post is a meme, so I guess we can both agree its content is to be interpreted as hyperbole. And I don't think it's reasonable to dismiss its message just because the current situation is nothing like literal re-education camps.

          I appreciate and understand that you, like many others, do not perceive the push for "goodthink" as all that intrusive. And that you see no problem with a single 3-hour training done once for one's entire tenure at a company. Neither would I.

          But standpoint epistemology ("lived experiences") is not a good tool for assessing generalized sociocultural trends. Your company might be doing it right; meanwhile, Coca-Cola is telling their employees to be "less white". Just because it's not happening to you at this moment, doesn't mean it is not happening to others, or that it won't happen to you in the future.

          Complacency and desensitization are two of standpoint epistemology's blindspots woke grifters take advantage of. It's the boiling frog paradigm. They will not start by hitting you with compelled speech, identity-based penitence, public demoralization, and fully-fledged Robin DiAngelo-style indoctrination. If they did that, there would be immediate resistance, and the gig would be over. Instead, they will encroach little by little, shifting the line just a little bit further. Enough to make you slightly uncomfortable, but not enough that you'd do something about it.

          This gradual, ever-intrusive progression was already mentioned in the Harvard Business Review article I linked to in my original comment:

          we recommend investing in a multipronged diversity and inclusion program [...] this includes a broad range of approaches, from targeting training to different audiences, to re-engineering hiring practices, to normalizing flex time, to using technology and behavioral science [...] collect data on the attitudes and behaviors of current employees who are the target of most diversity trainings

          Just to be 100% clear. I do think certain types of cultural sensitivity and inclusion training do make sense in a lot of situations. I, for example, attended cultural sensitivity training before assuming a technical lead position on a project where half the workforce was located in India. It was really informative and saved me a lot of potential trouble down the line. I also think a code of conduct course addressing harassment and discrimination is a perfectly reasonable part of onboarding.

          That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the encroachment of pseudoscientific, ideology-based, behavioral and language policing; the attempted highjacking of the workplace for social engineering purposes. [1] [2] [3]

          [–]FozzieBear 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Thanks for this. It's the first I've heard of 'standpoint epistemology' and the first I've seen these kinds of arguments (and I only occasionally read well-written arguments like this on Saidit). The usual excuse that we need greater inclusivity in the workplace makes sense to me, though I think and/or would agree that it does come at a great cost: that the inclusive dialogue does not protect/include those of us who enjoy sarcasm. It can shut down honest, open dialogue in the workplace. Inclusivity should, it would seem, involve the tolerance so-called microaggressions or sarcasm. It's not even up for discussion at the woke workplace. Like me, many at Saidit are contrarians who've likely offended with "microaggressions" the sensitive folks at Reddit (but I also offend people here at Saidit).Thanks for the informative response.

          [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Mm