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[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Do you think this generation knows about the original passover? I am thinking about the time when the Hebrews were slaves in Egypt. God told them through Moses He would release them from their bondage through plagues on the Egyptians, so that the Egyptians would Let my people go!

The Destroyer was the last plague, which killed the first born in every house that did not believe in God. Those that believed in God demonstrated their belief by applying the blood of a lamb over their door posts. The Destroyer passed over the houses that had the blood of the lamb, but those that did not believe in God would not apply the blood, and the first born in their house died.

History repeats itself. Those that believe in God today will be spared. The blood of the Lamb is the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross. Those that believe on Him will be saved, and their actions in life show they believe, when they love one another.

[–]LtGreenCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Being God 101:

Step 1: Create people, put them on Earth. Bestow upon them skepticism and the capacity for sin

Step 2: Make the evidence for your existence so vague that people will go off the rails making up their own religions and gods

Step 3: Get angry when they follow the wrong gods or religions that didn't get it right

Step 4: Do all of this regardless of your omnipotence and knowledge of exactly how everything would play out anyway

Step 5: Murder innocent children to punish their parents for not believing the right things and making decisions you knew they'd make

Step 6: ???

Step 7: Prophet

No offense but God kinda sounds like a sociopath and not someone I'd be comfortable spending eternity with.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Step by step... but who will understand?

1] Man existed before he was on earth. He was a perfect spiritual being, made in the image of God. He was given free will, like God. But pride crept in, and he thought to usurp God. Man followed Lucifer instead, gave up his divinity, and became a mortal man.

His memory was wiped so he could be given another opportunity to take a test of free will. Now he lives on Satan's planet. Which God will he choose? Will he choose the humble Jesus or the proud devil?

2] It was not so in the beginning. The first men walked with God and had plenty of evidence he and the holy angels existed. Now we are at the last generation of man, a time when he does not want evidence of God's existence, or else God would give it. Man loves the darkness rather than the light, and will not come to the light, because his deeds are evil and he does not want them exposed by the light. God exists and it is man's choice to reject the evidence.

3] God is not angry, but is patient and long suffering, and will have all men to be saved. The devil is the one that is angry, because he knows his time is short. Men that reject God go without his protection and experience the evil rewards for his own evil deeds.

4] What else could God do? Man must have free will to have the ultimate bliss in eternity, otherwise he would be as a robot. God made the spirits to be perfect. It was their choice to reject God and follow Lucifer. God, out of his mercy, provided himself a sacrifice so that men could regain their perfect spiritual state. God's spirit was in the man Jesus, born of a virgin. Those that recognize God in Jesus see God as their Father.

5] ? The Destroyer killed the first born. Why blame God for murder, when he offered to save them from the Destroyer, if they would simply put the blood of the lamb on their door posts?

God is the Savior through Jesus. The devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I have no evidence that the boy cried wolf and I have no evidence that he didn't. In other words, I have no way of arguing against fables, so by your own rules you win. I concede.

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The wolf seeks to devour the sheep, but he cannot succeed unless he can separate the sheep from their Shepherd.

When men handle the word of God deceitfully, they are wolves in sheep's clothing.

When people lose their faith in Jesus, they become easy game to the adversary. Jesus is the Good Shepherd, and he gave his life for the sheep.

[–]SloppyJoeBeaver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

God kinda does some really shitty things in the Bible.

[–]In-the-clouds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That sentiment would be shared by the slavemasters of today that do not want their fellow man to be free.

[–]SloppyJoeBeaver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Like what? I follow the Old Testament and I love it because the god of the Old Testament slaughters more scum than any other god ever described.

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Average jew be like:

[–]In-the-clouds 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The judgments did not end in the time of the Old Testament. God is the same today as he has always been. The most death and destruction is yet to come, because the world has rejected God. Man does not value righteousness, love, or truth, so God will remove all that is his (the rapture) and the world will be plunged into darkness. Evil will rule for a short time. Man shall reap what he has sown. As when the Destroyer came to earth before, there will again be weeping and gnashing of teeth. The tribulations will be unlike anything seen before nor will ever be seen again. The only way to escape is through Jesus.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Scum that he created, despite already knowing beforehand exactly what they'd do

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

What are you talking about? God never claims to be omniscient in the Old Testament. This is just moronic nonsense.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Then you may want to send a letter of complaint to this website

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Nothing quoted from the Old Testament is God speaking. The Old Testament has many contributing authors, and some are overly anxious to kiss God's ass. But it is still a great book. I would send these authors letters if I had a time machine.

[–]LtGreenCo 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I don't know the first quote kinda sounds like God speaking.

"I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me. I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come."

God himself may not have written that passage but he certainly created the guy who did write it. Which means if that's not a direct quote from God then his holy book is at least partially full of lies, which doesn't seem like something God would tolerate with his holy book.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Well this part is actually true and doesn't imply omniscience. What God says in the Old Testament are basically universal laws ethics comparable to universal laws of science. This isn't knowing everything, it is just knowing what can be verified with inductive reasoning based on history.

[–]LtGreenCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Even without the omniscience argument, I'd still argue that God is a bit morally dubious for punishing humans for simply doing what he knowingly gave them the capability to do, and in the environment he created and the parameters he set up. It doesn't seem ethical or fair to, for example, create a species, give it raging hormones and high libidos, and then judge them harshly when that particular mechanic goes beyond the boundaries you set, (e.g. rape, adultery, homosexuality, etc.) regardless of the fact that not every individual of said species is aware of said boundaries, save for the fortunate ones who were made aware from the correct books and preachings, as a result of being born into or converting to the right religion.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sometimes he is and other times he's not. Because the ancient Israelites were pagans who wanted in on the new god being talked about in their community, but they couldn't get straight who he was so they misattributed many things to him from their pagan gods.

[–]jamesK_3rd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Needs "science" or Follow the science" on there.

Otherwise, this is complete