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[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (10 children)

Only if you don't admit that anarchy leads to capitalism.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

isn't that why the communist implies he will kill the anarchist after the revolution

[–]Chipit[S] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

Communists kill everyone who isn't in favor of communism. And then after they run out of those, they start killing other communists because they're not the right kind of communists.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

They start killing the other communists first usually.

[–]Trajan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yep, that’s standard practice for revolutionary groups. Once in power, revolutionaries with divergent views are the biggest rivals. To avoid rolling revolutions they purge anybody who might have the same idea they did. Divergent thinking is also a threat to ideological purity.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And then they keep killing because this new genocide isn’t historically significant.

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Explain please.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Mutal trades and agreements are natural. Centralized social control requires government.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

I guess you'd have to define capitalism first.

For me the ability to use money to make money is a pretty vital aspect.

Trading and government have existed throughout human history so it has to be more than that.

[–]Vulptex 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

For me the ability to use money to make money is a pretty vital aspect.

Yes, and that's what it results in. Businesses pop up and people work, sell, buy, etc.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Mutal trades and agreements are natural.

Yes. This could occur with top-down capitalist enterprises, communism, anarchism/voluntaryism, or bottom-up authentic (not-rigged) democratic cooperatives in the 3rd type of socialism TPTB don't want us to understand.

Centralized social control requires government.

We only need social balance and stability. We don't need centralization nor control via mafia governments.

All of us in the West have been conditioned to believe we need centralized "leadership".

There are many other strong community based cultures with more horizontal fair meritocratic hierarchies.

Totalitarianism, socialism, free markets, anarchism, etc. are abstract forms and extreme ideals that can never ever be attained. Practically most anarchists who think about it are simply minarchists as the second you have no government people will be free and some will start their own, from Lord Of The Flies to mobs to mafias to militaries under warlords fighting for legitimacy and supremacy.