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[–]sproketboy 11 insightful - 6 fun11 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

Shit I'm going to put these up in my neighborhood.

[–]Airbus320 7 insightful - 9 fun7 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

u/johnnybravo stop being an extremist and eat drugs now!

[–]AnarchySpeach 8 insightful - 7 fun8 insightful - 6 fun9 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Oh fuck. I've got 5 out of the 7. I need to seek help!/s

[–]Optimus85 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

That would be a very well brought up child if you ask me.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

(Anyone that cool, healthy and informed would not be a far-right extremist. Right-wing extremists are helping Republicans drug the 99% with Big Pharma, they're the overweight gravy seals who are attacking black grandmothers at protests, they don't read libtard classical literature, they want women to have no rights in relationships, marriage or pregnancy, they want to defund the Environmental Protection Agency so that corporations and others can destroy the world we live in, they want a theocracy, not a democracy for a nation, they don't value the important history of democracies, they don't want the culture to adjust or develop naturally, but instead revert back to medieval norms, they make full use of modern and post-modern social media and technology in order to gain support for their attacks on the 99%, human rights, the environment, democracy, education, small businesses, etc., etc.)

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Anyone that cool, healthy and informed would not be a far-right extremist.

The fuck did I say about reading people's minds? You're not a mind-reader.

Right-wing extremists are helping Republicans drug the 99% with Big Pharma

Republicans despise the right as much as you do.

they don't read libtard classical literature

The classics have been cancelled by the left. White supremacy, you know. Nobody is reading them, except people that the left would consider far right extremists. You know, such as anyone to the right of Mao Zedong.

they want to defund the Environmental Protection Agency

It went far beyond its original mandate to protect the environment and is being used for nefarious means. Attacking their budget is the only thing they understand.

they want a theocracy,

Can you do your mind-reading trick again? Tell me where I slept last night.

not a democracy for a nation

Democracy was invented by the white supremacists. It reeks of systemic racism and oppression. The fact that everyone's vote counts the same? That oppressors get to decide just as well as the oppressed? Completely unjust and unsuitable under any system of social justice.

they don't want the culture to adjust or develop naturally, but instead revert back to medieval norms

This is the Taliban. You know, the ones you just helped win the war.

attacks on the 99%

It's the left that punches down and hurts the little guy. Speaking truth to the powerless.

human rights

Critical social justice is not an extension of liberal or progressive politics, or even a critique of such politics. It is, as its more sophisticated proponents readily admit, a form of anti-liberalism. In Critical Race Theory: An Introduction, Richard Delgado and Jean Stefancic explain that “unlike traditional civil rights, critical race theory questions the very foundations of the liberal order, including equality theory, legal reasoning, Enlightenment rationalism, and neutral principles of constitutional law.” Concepts like the rule of law, merit, reason, knowledge, and even truth are seen as fictions constructed by the “white cisheteropatriarchy” that are used to perpetuate injustices against BIPOC groups (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color).

Simply put, the “critical social justice” movement, informed by critical theory, represents an assault not just on core concepts of liberal democracy, but also on the epistemology that undergirds it.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The fuck did I say about reading people's minds? You're not a mind-reader.

Good morning, Chipit. Are you trying to be silly?

Republicans despise the right as much as you do.

Absolutely not.

The classics have been cancelled by the left.

No. The "left" reads everything. Which groups have a history of banning books? (The "Christian" right, Nazis &c.)

Attacking their [EPA] budget is the only thing they understand.

This is insane. There is no good reason to defund the EPA, not one.

Can you do your mind-reading trick again? Tell me where I slept last night.

This is weird.

That oppressors get to decide just as well as the oppressed?

No. The descendants of oppressors are not themselves oppressors, nor did their ancestors do anything they considered oppressive. But the answer to your question is: yes. If the majority vote in a democracy, they determine their own social norms and justice. (And the US is not purely a democracy, because of the potential of the Electoral College members to vote against their constituents' wishes.)

This is the Taliban. You know, the ones you just helped win the war.

No - Chipit - the Taliban restrict culture, music, dance, women &c, some of which agrees with those on the far-right.

It's the left that punches down and hurts the little guy. Speaking truth to the powerless.

No - the "left" are not in power and haven't been for 4 decades in the US.

Concepts like the rule of law, merit, reason, knowledge, and even truth are seen as fictions constructed by the “white cisheteropatriarchy” that are used to perpetuate injustices against BIPOC groups (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color).

No. This is perhaps the most paranoid disinformation in any of your responses. I don't know how to say this politely.

Simply put, the “critical social justice” movement, informed by critical theory, represents an assault not just on core concepts of liberal democracy, but also on the epistemology that undergirds it.

No. This is not a proper "movement" and if more than 200 online paranoid schizophrenics are claiming that it is a movement, it certainly wouldn't "assault ...core concepts of liberal democracy."

I've replied to these comments because I am surprised that anyone would believe any of this (all of it false). I've tried to be polite, while noting that these are indeed false assumptions. I'll try not to bother you, but you did seemingly give this serious thought, and because all of this is wrong, it's perhaps important to respond to each point. I refer here to the comments and not you, but the comments do make me wonder how many more Americans believe this stuff. It's very troubling that there is a movement in the US (and some other countries) that focuses on all of these lies, perpetuated by online propaganda (/s/ShitpostNews). I normally state that I don't want anything to change on Saidit, so that I can read posts like yours and try to get access to these alternative perspectives and understand your point of view. But in your case, Chipit, I genuinely hope you'll also look - like me - at alternative sources of information and try to learn from people you don't agree with. This will help you understand basic fallacies, and may also help you with your arguments against people you disagree with. For example, if you were to argue in most places about a “critical social justice movement" destroying liberal democracy, most people would not take you seriously. If you want to be taken seriously, try to learn from people you don't agree with. (It's a genuine recommendation.)

Best wishes.

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Absolutely not.

Absolutely so! The NeverTrump establishment Republicans absolutely despise their former base.

No. The "left" reads everything.

Nope. Decolonize the curriculum. Anything by DWEMs (dead white European males) is out.

There is no good reason to defund the EPA, not one.

Attempting to define every mud puddle in the country as a waterway in order to be able to regulate the surrounding area (i.e. cut off farmers and ranchers from their livelihoods).

The descendants of oppressors are not themselves oppressors

Huh? Yes they most certainly are! You know damn well that under Critical Theory, the left's current philosophy, that oppressor status is passed down in families, and that blame most certainly does fall on people today for things that happened centuries ago.

No - Chipit - the Taliban restrict culture, music, dance, women &c, some of which agrees with those on the far-right.

Restricting culture? That's the left you're talking about. Restricting women? Women’s Rights are now a Hate Crime in Scotland.

No - the "left" are not in power and haven't been for 4 decades in the US.

As if political power is the only kind of power. Nice fallacy there. Who has been silencing free speech with enthusiasm ever since they were able to? Free speech is a right-wing value. Remember, the only people who ever claim free speech freedoms are racists.

On the other hand, it's probably worth some deep thought as to why when people are allowed to vote, they overwhelmingly reject the far left. Weird, eh?

No. This is perhaps the most paranoid disinformation in any of your responses. I don't know how to say this politely.

It's not paranoid disinformation, it's Critical Theory, as you know well. CT is a complete rejection of the Enlightenment, and as such it rejects reason and logic for "lived experience" and problematizing arguments morally, on their own terms. The white man came up with the idea there is "objective truth" and used it to oppress peoples of color. White supremacy as enabled by the Enlightenment is most commonly conceptualized as a way for lower-class whites to feel socially superior to people from other ethnic backgrounds. More important, though, white supremacy is a tried-and-tested means for upper class whites to grow their wealth and power. This thought is all over the place on the Left and I am astonished that you claim to be not familiar with it.

No. This is not a proper "movement" and if more than 200 online paranoid schizophrenics are claiming that it is a movement

Now you are just outright lying. Critical Theory powers our universities with tens of thousands of professors who are teaching millions of students to find oppression in everything.

noting that these are indeed false assumptions.

All 100% true, but you're here to spread disinformation. Not a surprise.

if you were to argue in most places about a “critical social justice movement" destroying liberal democracy, most people would not take you seriously.

Racism is not a matter of opinion. When people are allowed to vote, they will vote for fascists and racists. Trump proved that once and for all. Two things structure society: discourses and systems of power maintained by discourses. society is divided into oppressors versus oppressed, and the oppressors condition the beliefs and culture of society such that neither they nor the oppressed are aware of the realities of their oppression. This “irreducible” epistemic oppression requires a “third-order change” to the “organizational schemata” of society (i.e., a complete epistemic revolution that removes the old epistemologies and replaces them with new ones) in order to find repair.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02691728.2013.782585

the tools of the critical-thinking tradition (for example, validity, soundness, conceptual clarity) cannot dismantle the master’s house: they can temporarily beat the master at his own game, but they can never bring about any enduring structural change. They fail because the critical thinker’s toolkit is commonly invoked in particular settings, at particular times to reassert power: those adept with the tools often use them to restore an order that assures their comfort. They can be habitually invoked to defend our epistemic home terrains.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/hypa.12354

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the response

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Lel, this list has to be a shitpost

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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If this is non-satire, then its a pretty sad attempt.

    [–]carn0ld03 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    They are obviously a threat to the new Lefty LGBTQ Racist anti cis white people society.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Holy shit. I like this one. It just tickles my fancy.

    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "Growing collection of classic literature"

    Really? QAnon nutjobs read?

    I'd kind of assumed that they got their entire view of the world from fox news.

    Appreciation of nation, history and culture

    The appreciate nation, and try to organise a coup?

    Monogamy.

    Not so much in the Trump era. More sort of fucking porn stars while your wife is pregnant, importing foreign "glamour" models to fuck and not being able to hold a marriage together. Twice.