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    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

    But the cartoon's main argument is that schools are indoctrinating young students with facts that make them feel bad.

    1) That's not really what's happening - young kids are not really informed of the actual brutal past, nor would they understand it

    2) Students should learn facts

    3) There are ways of teaching facts that do not cause emotional distress

    4) Unless we learn about these facts at a young age, we'll continue to be complicit in the attrocities committed by our countries

    5) Young students learn about the group in a manner outlined by Jean Piaget, in stages, and cannot understand the actual traumas of history until after the onset of puberty

    6) The purpose of this cartoon is to promote the idea that lies about the past are best for our kids, and the implication is that we should also whitewash history for ourselves

    7) What's the alternative to teaching facts? Edutainment? Promoting stupidity?

    8) History lessons for young kids do not focus on attrocities, and when there is a worthwhile note about an attrocity, it's explained in a very generalized manner

    9) Consider the example of the conquest of the Americas, or of India, or by the Roman Empire, &c: it's the standard history of people taking what they want, at all costs. A religious excuse for the conquest of the Americas was: providence

    10) When students learn about history - warts and all - they learn about themselves, humanity, and how to potentially avoid the attrocities of the past - and they're not taught in a manner that would cause them emotional distress

    11) The cartoon is an excellent example of the kind of cultural infantilism and a culture of narcissism that has spread in the US since the 1970s , whereby the inner child should be coddled to the point of avoiding the attrocities of our governments. Kids and our inner child don't benefit from this coddling, nor do others. Children are dying on a daily basis in Yemen due to hunger, thanks to Saudi Arabia, the US and Israel. We're not teaching children this, but they can read about it in the news. Kids will grow up understanding some of the shadow costs of greed and the military undustrial complex when they are taught basic history. Who among us adults care about what's happening in Yemen? Our views today were shaped by our earlier education.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

    with facts

    LOL

    Silly shill, "facts" are for shills.

    Why don't they ever teach classes about the ruling class, Zionists, and the corporatocracy?

    " To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. " ~ misattributed to Voltaire, but apt nonetheless.

    6) The purpose of this cartoon is to promote the idea that

    Unless you made this cartoon you don't know what the artist's purpose was.

    The more you spew the more you reveal your biased brainwashed limitations, that you are not a freethinker, and that you are a shill pushing the bullshit narratives of the establishment.

    7) What's the alternative to teaching facts? Edutainment? Promoting stupidity?

    Why must there be an alternative? Why not simply use all the tools? Facts can most certainly be subjective. "Promoting stupidity" is promoting stupidity. Edutainment is very effective and that's why the CIA and Zionism is so deeply rooted in Hollywood and corporate media "news".

    10) When students learn about history - warts and all

    So when are you going to learn about the history of Machiavellianism, manipulation, deception, propaganda, social engineering, manufacturing consent, brainwashing, and the levers of power?

    11) The cartoon is an excellent example of the kind of cultural infantilism and a culture of narcissism that has spread in the US since the 1970s...

    This is actually insightful and true, but not limited to the 1970s. They didn't get all those young minds to volunteer for countless wars by accident. The hippy movement was culturally engineered. And sadly few people care about the "collateral damage" of US Empire when all they see are spectacular patriotic launches of weapons on the news but never the mangled corpses.

    You recognize there are problems and talk about rejecting the "mainstream" yet you fail to actually bring the skepticism to authority (and their vaccines). You don't need to follow Jimmy Dore or James Corbett, but you'll need to find some alternative sources that you trust because you won't find answers critical of the "mainstream" from the "mainstream".

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

    These comments are as desperate, baseless, propagandistic, false and crocodile tears inappropriate as the infantile picture you posted. Kids aren't getting that kind of history, and if they were they'd not understand the full implications of it, obviously. Pedophiles tend to think that kids understand trauma and sexuality. Perhaps this why the cartoonist thinkst the kid understands the trauma of history. In any event, it's good to learn about history, even as a kid.(if taught appropriately, and not by pedophile cartoonists). Try it.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

    You can do better than contradictions, tone responses, and ad hominems.

    These comments are as desperate,

    Where, how, why?

    baseless,

    Where, how, proof?

    propagandistic,

    Where?

    false and

    Proof?

    crocodile tears

    Really?

    inappropriate as the infantile picture you posted.

    LOL. How so?

    Now who'd stooping to desperation?

    Kids aren't getting that kind of history, and if they were they'd not understand the full implications of it, obviously.

    Not obviously. Explain.

    Pedophiles tend to think that kids understand trauma and sexuality. Perhaps this why the cartoonist thinkst the kid understands the trauma of history.

    That's a stretch.

    In any event, it's good to learn about history, even as a kid.(if taught appropriately,

    Agreed.

    and not by pedophile cartoonists).

    Slanderous shill using nonsense SJW smear tactics.

    Try it.

    I have learned about history. That's why I know you're wrong and you're an ignorant, perhaps even well-meaning, shill who won't even critically look at the Corbett Report content I shared with you.

    The more you resist, the more you're a SHILL.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

    So - Jason - when you speak with someone in person, so you slap that person across the face while speaking to them? Not only that, to you keep slapping them, while asking them to respond to you? Do you like S&M? Because that's exactly the sick and twisted approach you have on Saidit. You are scum, an embarrassmnt, and try to diminish other people so that you can feel superior. Fuck you.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

    Owie! My precious widdle heart gently weeps.

    You know that I've tried and tried with you and you've lied and lied, shill.

    Stop lying and I'll stop treating you like a shill.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

    Again - you want to discredit me so that you can feel superior. No - comments you don't agree with are NOT lies, you pathetic, narcissistic, infant.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    Again - you want to discredit me so that you can feel superior. No - comments you don't agree with are NOT lies, you pathetic, narcissistic, infant.

    No. I don't give a fuck about you and I don't need to feel superior. I lost much of my ego when I got old and fat due to the dangers of poisons from Big Pharma (who you love). However, your own narcissism is coming through loud and clear. Confession through projection.

    I do care about what lies, division, and dangerous bullshit you promote in this community, shill.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    Again - this is insane.

    I did NOT say that you care about anything.

    Again you want to talk about yourself.

    And of course ANYTHING you want to call a lie is supposed to be a lie.

    All of this is to make you the superior center of the argument. Trump did this constantly. Others are just lying shills that you can abuse in every one of your posts.

    What an embarrassing, pathetic creature.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    A high-schooler (primary schooler) would 100% get the full implication of a corporate, Zionist takeover of government. They also could learn math the right way as opposed to Zionist created common core and instead of social studies: they learn ethics and law. Because ignorance of law is no excuse. Our generations would be far better off then they are now and they would understand fr better the takeover that has occurrd and ways in which to stop it.