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[–]jykylsin2034 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I would vote funny but this is just sad, and true. NO WHITE GUILT

[–]djhdlkguhaeil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

#sorrynotsorry

[–]Zapped 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I recently learned that guilt and shame are not the same. Guilt comes from the feeling of inadequacy and being unloved. Shame is associated with an act of doing something wrong or bad.

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    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (53 children)

    But the cartoon's main argument is that schools are indoctrinating young students with facts that make them feel bad.

    1) That's not really what's happening - young kids are not really informed of the actual brutal past, nor would they understand it

    2) Students should learn facts

    3) There are ways of teaching facts that do not cause emotional distress

    4) Unless we learn about these facts at a young age, we'll continue to be complicit in the attrocities committed by our countries

    5) Young students learn about the group in a manner outlined by Jean Piaget, in stages, and cannot understand the actual traumas of history until after the onset of puberty

    6) The purpose of this cartoon is to promote the idea that lies about the past are best for our kids, and the implication is that we should also whitewash history for ourselves

    7) What's the alternative to teaching facts? Edutainment? Promoting stupidity?

    8) History lessons for young kids do not focus on attrocities, and when there is a worthwhile note about an attrocity, it's explained in a very generalized manner

    9) Consider the example of the conquest of the Americas, or of India, or by the Roman Empire, &c: it's the standard history of people taking what they want, at all costs. A religious excuse for the conquest of the Americas was: providence

    10) When students learn about history - warts and all - they learn about themselves, humanity, and how to potentially avoid the attrocities of the past - and they're not taught in a manner that would cause them emotional distress

    11) The cartoon is an excellent example of the kind of cultural infantilism and a culture of narcissism that has spread in the US since the 1970s , whereby the inner child should be coddled to the point of avoiding the attrocities of our governments. Kids and our inner child don't benefit from this coddling, nor do others. Children are dying on a daily basis in Yemen due to hunger, thanks to Saudi Arabia, the US and Israel. We're not teaching children this, but they can read about it in the news. Kids will grow up understanding some of the shadow costs of greed and the military undustrial complex when they are taught basic history. Who among us adults care about what's happening in Yemen? Our views today were shaped by our earlier education.

    [–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

    But the cartoon's main argument is that schools are indoctrinating young students with facts that make them feel bad.

    CRITICAL. RACE. THEORY.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    small White Pill to counteract the CRT scare

    A silent majority always exists in political environments/cultural situations like these.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    critical race theory ... relies on [apartheid and white supremacist] social constructionism, elevates storytelling over evidence and reason, rejects the concepts of truth and merit, and opposes [human rights, human decency, humanity, etc., and thus allow the most powerful to violate the most vulnerable and destroy their potential opportunities for social mobility.]source

    EDIT: And to be clear - those words in brackets above have been mine - insofar as I am criticizing Critical Race Theory, which it seems has not been obvious to some here. /u/TheJamesRocket has, it seems, misinterpreted my comment

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yes, indeed, Socks. I agree with your statements here. CRT is definitely used to destroy potential opportunities for social mobility.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

    It's daft to quote Wikipedia on any political matters.

    Wikipedia is 100% compromised by the SJW propaganda you're trying to see through.

    Quoting it proves you're profoundly compromised, unless you're using it as a starting point to show what the propagandists are pushing. Without a counter-narrative to compare with the source reference is crap.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    You're an embarrassment, Jason.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

    Low tier effort. The shame is your own, especially when you use Wikipedia like that when everyone here knows it's compromised, shill.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    Indeed - name-calling - one reason you're an embarrassment

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

    You are a shill, whether you know it or not. That's not name-calling. That's truth-telling.

    Do you feel embarrassed when you call people names and use the bad words?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    It's an insult, Jason. It's a way of saying: "you are NOT honest, you are NOT genuine, you are NOT worth reading, you have an agenda". It is name-calling. It is a way trying to make sure the other person is inferior to you. Shills are normally quite obvious. In my view, it is one of he worst insults a person can be called in a Saidit forum. Calling someone an asshole would be so much nicer. If instead you tell someone that their comments have no value - WITH EVERY POST YOU MAKE - they will get sick of it and will consider significant revenge. It's like getting a slap in the face every time one gets a response. It's sick.

    [–]p_millz 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

    4) Unless we learn about these facts at a young age, we'll continue to be complicit in the attrocities committed by our countries

    The establishment that is pushing the hot garbage that is CRT has been bombing the Middle East and robbing them of their resources for how long now?

    There's no end in sight for those atrocities, so I don't believe they have any interest in making the world a better place. They are simply trying to perpetuate racism forever to prevent the masses from unifying and rebelling. Divide and conquer.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    ^

    The corporate paradoxical hypocrisy is strong in socks. The rational thinking is moderately good at times but there are several serious kinks that need to be worked out.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    I don't know what CRT is, but would agree that - because of these attrocities - it's more important now to teach kids history.

    [–]p_millz 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    CRT = Critical Race Theory

    In a nutshell, it teaches that all white people are racist and responsible for disparities between white and minority communities.

    Of course it has nothing to do with the development of the welfare state, the CIA's introduction of crack to our inner cities (RIP Gary Webb), single parent households, etc.

    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Also, concerning the slave-trade, my caucasian Irish ancestors on father's side were indeed slaves of the crown who were sent to British corporation colonies to work the land for the profit of Crown inc. In fact your avg. hillbilly cracker has slave ancestry. Maybe not of such a brutal past as the African slave trade but never the less indentured and slaves. But again, that history is never taught, instead present day caucasians are taught that we as a group are the cause of slavery. This sort of teaching of history has an agenda.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Thanks for the info. I argue against Critical Race Theory here on Saidit on occasion. I had thought it was - as a theory - mainly a fringe racist group of writers, though I also appreciate that racists like far-right Jews, and similar groups around the world have practiced this approach to racial supremacism. Indeed, attrocities abroad are thanks very much so to racist approaches to Arabs. Not that I know anything about Arabs, but the military industrial complex has been making a fortune for the hawks in the US, UK, France, Germany, Israel, Russia, Turkey, &c because hardly anyone questions their support of genocide in the Middle East.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    You're spinning it.
    Drop the left-right bullshit and you'll get a clearer view.
    CRT is not fringe at all. It's "mainstream" propaganda, primarily aimed at kids and soft minds - thus the critical point of the OP cartoon.

    because hardly anyone questions their support of genocide in the Middle East.

    Why? Because of propaganda from authorities.
    Question propaganda.
    Question authorities.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Because of propaganda from authorities. Question propaganda. Question authorities.

    Follow your own advice and learn to read images like the one you posted. That pic is a part of the snowflake's "war on woke". No, I do not see CRT as part of the mainstream propaganda, but yes, there is CRT propaganda, here on Saidit.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    I do not see CRT as part of the mainstream propaganda

    Because you believe the mainstream propaganda and are blind to their manipulations.

    You won't see it when you are their target demographic. I won't stoop to insulting that demographic not only because I was once part of it, but because most people don't have the inclination to be skeptical much less the interest, time, energy, and fortitude to face the ugly realities and big picture of how the ruling class is fucking everyone over.

    As long as you are serve the establishment, knowingly or not, you are a shill.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    This is factually true, and not an actual insult to the dubious character of socks. Being indoctrinated by the Establishment makes one a mouthpiece for their propaganda. They might be a "voluntary (as in unpaid) shill"?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No - Jason - facts is not that difficult to see, as one looks at a variety of informative resources. And don't assume that mainstream resources are so influential. You continue to dumb-down and simplify everything so that it fits your little idea of the world. Cut it out. Look out the fucking window.

    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    CRT = Critical Race Theory.

    I believe it was coined in the Frankfurt school and the goal of it, from my observation, is to traumatize caucasians for no other reason than having lighter skin. That is, they are at fault for the attrocities that occured in the past.

    It's markedly idiotic.

    [–]Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    When Zionist Jews get their filthy hands on public schooling, which they have done through impact value markets and common core buffoonery (David Coleman), then yes, they do racialize caucasians under this white guilt narrative. They mine as well talk about how the Jew Christopher Colon was cutting off the hands of his capitaives and was an overall psychopath, yet we continue to celebrate him.

    I say teach the brutal past but don't racilize it in order to induce guilt on children.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

    with facts

    LOL

    Silly shill, "facts" are for shills.

    Why don't they ever teach classes about the ruling class, Zionists, and the corporatocracy?

    " To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. " ~ misattributed to Voltaire, but apt nonetheless.

    6) The purpose of this cartoon is to promote the idea that

    Unless you made this cartoon you don't know what the artist's purpose was.

    The more you spew the more you reveal your biased brainwashed limitations, that you are not a freethinker, and that you are a shill pushing the bullshit narratives of the establishment.

    7) What's the alternative to teaching facts? Edutainment? Promoting stupidity?

    Why must there be an alternative? Why not simply use all the tools? Facts can most certainly be subjective. "Promoting stupidity" is promoting stupidity. Edutainment is very effective and that's why the CIA and Zionism is so deeply rooted in Hollywood and corporate media "news".

    10) When students learn about history - warts and all

    So when are you going to learn about the history of Machiavellianism, manipulation, deception, propaganda, social engineering, manufacturing consent, brainwashing, and the levers of power?

    11) The cartoon is an excellent example of the kind of cultural infantilism and a culture of narcissism that has spread in the US since the 1970s...

    This is actually insightful and true, but not limited to the 1970s. They didn't get all those young minds to volunteer for countless wars by accident. The hippy movement was culturally engineered. And sadly few people care about the "collateral damage" of US Empire when all they see are spectacular patriotic launches of weapons on the news but never the mangled corpses.

    You recognize there are problems and talk about rejecting the "mainstream" yet you fail to actually bring the skepticism to authority (and their vaccines). You don't need to follow Jimmy Dore or James Corbett, but you'll need to find some alternative sources that you trust because you won't find answers critical of the "mainstream" from the "mainstream".

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Social engineering ans behavioral modification is the new gold. They have wielded these methods with a great amount of sophistication.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

    These comments are as desperate, baseless, propagandistic, false and crocodile tears inappropriate as the infantile picture you posted. Kids aren't getting that kind of history, and if they were they'd not understand the full implications of it, obviously. Pedophiles tend to think that kids understand trauma and sexuality. Perhaps this why the cartoonist thinkst the kid understands the trauma of history. In any event, it's good to learn about history, even as a kid.(if taught appropriately, and not by pedophile cartoonists). Try it.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

    You can do better than contradictions, tone responses, and ad hominems.

    These comments are as desperate,

    Where, how, why?

    baseless,

    Where, how, proof?

    propagandistic,

    Where?

    false and

    Proof?

    crocodile tears

    Really?

    inappropriate as the infantile picture you posted.

    LOL. How so?

    Now who'd stooping to desperation?

    Kids aren't getting that kind of history, and if they were they'd not understand the full implications of it, obviously.

    Not obviously. Explain.

    Pedophiles tend to think that kids understand trauma and sexuality. Perhaps this why the cartoonist thinkst the kid understands the trauma of history.

    That's a stretch.

    In any event, it's good to learn about history, even as a kid.(if taught appropriately,

    Agreed.

    and not by pedophile cartoonists).

    Slanderous shill using nonsense SJW smear tactics.

    Try it.

    I have learned about history. That's why I know you're wrong and you're an ignorant, perhaps even well-meaning, shill who won't even critically look at the Corbett Report content I shared with you.

    The more you resist, the more you're a SHILL.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

    So - Jason - when you speak with someone in person, so you slap that person across the face while speaking to them? Not only that, to you keep slapping them, while asking them to respond to you? Do you like S&M? Because that's exactly the sick and twisted approach you have on Saidit. You are scum, an embarrassmnt, and try to diminish other people so that you can feel superior. Fuck you.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

    Owie! My precious widdle heart gently weeps.

    You know that I've tried and tried with you and you've lied and lied, shill.

    Stop lying and I'll stop treating you like a shill.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

    Again - you want to discredit me so that you can feel superior. No - comments you don't agree with are NOT lies, you pathetic, narcissistic, infant.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

    Again - you want to discredit me so that you can feel superior. No - comments you don't agree with are NOT lies, you pathetic, narcissistic, infant.

    No. I don't give a fuck about you and I don't need to feel superior. I lost much of my ego when I got old and fat due to the dangers of poisons from Big Pharma (who you love). However, your own narcissism is coming through loud and clear. Confession through projection.

    I do care about what lies, division, and dangerous bullshit you promote in this community, shill.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

    Again - this is insane.

    I did NOT say that you care about anything.

    Again you want to talk about yourself.

    And of course ANYTHING you want to call a lie is supposed to be a lie.

    All of this is to make you the superior center of the argument. Trump did this constantly. Others are just lying shills that you can abuse in every one of your posts.

    What an embarrassing, pathetic creature.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    A high-schooler (primary schooler) would 100% get the full implication of a corporate, Zionist takeover of government. They also could learn math the right way as opposed to Zionist created common core and instead of social studies: they learn ethics and law. Because ignorance of law is no excuse. Our generations would be far better off then they are now and they would understand fr better the takeover that has occurrd and ways in which to stop it.

    [–]AcceleratedWallops 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    Have schools stopped teaching the "and then the Indians and Pilgrims were best of friends" narrative?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Probably not in Texas and other red states. It would seem that some fo the baby boomers also still believe this.

    [–]Doberlady 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    The truth hurts.

    [–]Vqccin3shill4 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    Whose truth?

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    User for 3 hours, implying that Truth is whatever someoone wants it to be. Very shilly of you, Vqccin3shill4

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Why do you ALWAYS have things backwards? This is why I think you are insane and need mental help. Your view of reality is so skewed, you've gone 180 degrees. It's fucked up. Others must be telling you this, or something like it, if they have any sense.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Why do you ALWAYS have things backwards?

      Okay, do you NOT buy into the lies of Critical Race Theory, shill?

      This is why I think you are insane and need mental help. Your view of reality is so skewed, you've gone 180 degrees. It's fucked up. Others must be telling you this, or something like it, if they have any sense.

      Ad hominems prove you've got no substantive argument - because you're a shill.

      [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      😮

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      All that matters is that parents can be rid of their lil ferals for 6+ hours a day...oh, and no damn sex education. Anything/everything else can be overlooked or forgiven.