white lives matter

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[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Then the same would be true of BLM.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Because blacks have been in positions of privilege? (Think.)

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Neither whites nor blacks are in privileged positions in the US. If you want to look at the wealthiest group that dominates the highest strata of Western civilization it would have to be Jews, followed by Asians. Whites aren't even the upper class in our own ancestral homelands anymore.

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Whites in the US have been raised since the '50s to 'follow their bliss' and do what the like most - in the "me, me, me era" - whereas Jewish and Asian traditions dating back hundreds of years have focused on their children on three or four factors: make lots of money, raise a family, get a nice house, and more recently a nice car and TV. So you have a point about whites losing their grip on privileged options.

Compared with blacks, whites have been in privileged positions.

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The reality is that Jews and Asians both practice cooperative ethnocentric survival strategies which outcompete the egalitarian strategies Europeans have been programmed to employ. In models, egalitarian strategies were dominated by literally every other strategy -- while ethnocentrism dominated every other strategy. http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

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Stephen Pinker has discussed this with regard to the Ashkenazim, thereby helping to revive scientific racism (previously eugenics): https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/02/the-unwelcome-revival-of-race-science

Historically, ethnocentric groups are also the most racist, and do not mix well with other groups, and thus do not help build societies.

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Jews' extreme ethnocentrism is the only reason they survived so many centuries wandering between nations when most other groups would have miscegenated out of existence. Mixing with other groups is bad for the long-term survival of your group.

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Not true for the Han Chinese and most people in India. Their relatively unmixed populations are over a billion each. Miscegenation is very good for populations, as has happened in the US for the past 200 years, and has been part of what made the US the wealthiest 20th century nation. All civilisations rise and fall. Jews will always be outsiders in many nations.

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What made the US the wealthiest nation was the complete collapse of all its competetors following WW2. In the modern age it grows ever more diverse and currently it is slowly sliding downward into insolvency. The success of a nation is tied directly to the quality of its human capital, and not all human populations are made equal.

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collapse of all its competetors following WW2

Only a small part of the reason, whereas New Deal programs, manufacturing and lending allowed people to take on debt and start families in the US. The 2/3rds of the economy that is supported with purchases grew in the 50s and 60s.

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep, in many places around the world black people are in positions of privilege.

The vice president of the USA identifies as black.

She's much more privileged than you'll ever be.

Don't be racist.

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I hope you know that this is an obvious fallacy. (Because one sees a handful of blacks in certain places of privilege, this is obviously not a sign that most blacks are in positions of privilege.)