Socialism

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[–]Druullus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Because they paid taxes, because the government borrows the money...?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Because the term has been used to turn the 99% against themselves (against the living wage, or science &c) while the 1% give themselves 'socialist' support in the form of tax cuts, deregulation, pay-to-play politics, &c). Republicans should know that they have been destroying the 99%. Socialism for the 1% - at the expense of the 99% - should end.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I hate to hear you talk about the 1% because you totally flavor it like a modern liberal fool.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like it when the other shitty flavor is used to try and talk about those sick parasites who have coalesced at the top of our societies.

Like, really. The only reason I want a check is because that's MY money in the first place, that they took from me with no real representation. At the end of the day, I'd prefer that they'd wisen up and stop trying to steal, but I feel like people are going to have to stop them for that to occur.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Rather than refer to this as liberal foolishness, be more specific. Before January, what happened to the $27 trillion that the US borrowed. What percentage of that directly supported the 99%, or small businesses, or the economy? A very small percentage. The political party primarily responsible for increasing wealth of the 1% at the expense of the 99% is obviously the Republican party. It's what they've done best. Did any of it "trickle down"? No. The options are clear: to support the 99%, or to allow the 1% to continue gleaning every last cent from the 99%.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Dude, you support the 1% when you vote for Biden. You voted for Biden.

Both parties are wicked. They obviously collude and put on a show for people like YOU. You gobble it up like a reality tv show then expect me to argue with you like I know that drama. It's a fucking joke, boycott it, speak out, and build new systems within your communities. If you vote, you legitimize their illegitimate process (it's been illegitimate for decades). If you follow corrupt laws, you give those laws reality. Same goes for if you enforce those laws.

You don't support liberty or the 99%.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Simply not true - in fact - the mirror opposite of what you've written.

Politics is not an either/or process. You know very well what the Republicans have done for the 1%, at the expense of the 99%.

You also know - or should know - that the "both parties are the same" comment is entirely from the right wing.

If you support the 99%, you support a change in political power that has just happened with a Democrat Senate and President, which join a Democrat House. Because the Republicans nearly destroyed everything for the 99% when they were in power, let's see how the Democrats can use their new opportunities to help the 99%.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I was actually left-wing when I decided that both parties are bunk, so no, that comment is not entirely from the right-wing. Republicans and Democrats have done this parasitic evil, I am tired of your heedless bullshit. You sound like a Trump supporter, but replace Trump with Biden. So sad.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's certainly not "heedless bullshit" - there arenumerous examples of this type of propaganda. It works like this: Republicans and Libertarians (the same party, more or less) want to convnince people that they are the party of small government, so that they can get more more money from corporations for deregulation legislation. To do this, they promote the idea that all government is bad, and that you should have your FREEDOM (nevermind the ways in which a liberal, plural government helps the 99% with a quality of life and freedom).

There have been Bernie supporters who've been so angered by the DNC that they hate both parties. I am one of them. But think about Bernie's message, or also the message that's best for the 99%. It's the one whereby voters will only support politicians who support the 99%. Do ANY Rep8ublicans support the 99%. No. Do ANY Democrats support the 99%. Yes. It's that simple.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

What bothers me is that you think you have to choose between these two horribly inept political parties which have BOTH ruined our political apparatus. You asked "do any Republicans support the 99%?" Yes sir, there are plenty of Democrats and Republicans who on a local scale have done good for their constituents. This is not common. They will get forced out after a term. Any career politician is a sellout. You don't actually know this because you haven't been involved in the local scene in various states, unlike me, who has seen both parties produce good-natured people, on the local scale, these people then going on to last maybe one or two terms, only to quit and publicly denounce our process for being corrupt. I know both Democrats and Republicans who have done this, on a very small scale. Once you bring in more areas for one to represent, more money is involved, and good-natured people seem to be sparse. This is the reality. It has very little to do with political parties and a whole hell of a lot to do with who will play ball. It is that simple. Ron Paul didn't want to play ball after thirty years of doing it, I assume Bernie felt similarly. The thing is, you don't just walk away from your complicit actions and thoughts without being wholly public about it. That is why those two guys have their nominations stolen from them. They were willing to put their necks out, but never far enough for the truth to be known, unlike those small-time politicians, who tend to last one or two terms, and who publicly denounce our process for being corrupted on both aisles.

You don't hate both parties. Don't even try to pretend that you do. You support what is happening right now.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Because nothing says "socialism" like a good comic punching down on and insulting the little guy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This very much like the UK tabloid language of "progressives are political" and punching down on the little guy, but right-wing/Torries are merely offering common sense solutions (though by selling off all tax-payer programmes that help the 99%).

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did you not see the ugly outpouring of bigotry from the upper middle class Labour right before Boris won? "Vote for us, you contemptible little racist toads" didn't work, which came as a great shock to Labour.

After the election, the correct choice was confirmed as Labour, party of the workers, ripped into the Little Englander hobbits for being too stupid to vote for people who obviously hated their guts.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well - Labour lost because of idiotic choices across the board, not to mention their absolute failure to deal with the incessant PR campaign against them by Murdoch &c. The other poblem is the "first past the post" election system, which will continue to put the people with the most money in office. It's an absolute 'fuck you' to the 99% in the UK. But there is an MP system that is somewhat more representative than in the US, and can be potentially engaged by the 99%.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So did you miss the ugly bigotry towards the working class? No, it must have been those evil Murdoch media.

This is why Labour keeps losing. A refusal to look their hatred in the face and repudiate it.