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[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's wrong when you do it, but not wrong when we do it. Leftist philosophy in a nutshell. What an excellent illustration.

Yes, they really do think this way. It is a profound rejection of the Western liberalist tradition. See: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/

Debate and conversation, especially when they rely upon reason, rationality, science, evidence, epistemic adequacy, and other Enlightenment-based tools of persuasion are the very thing they think produced injustice in the world in the first place. Those are not their methods and they reject them.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Neera Tanden has a new appreciation of cancel culture.

I mean, come on Socks, you think N years from now you should be fired from your job cause you wrote some shit online?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Good question. Part of the problem is the politicization of so much of our public discourse in the past 4 years. Before Trump, political discussions were rarely important to a broad spectrum of the US population. Now, just wearing a mask is supposedly a political statement. It's ridiculous.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Let me rephrase that, say in some arbitrary amount of years, some reporter finds something you wrote, here, in some random argument that goes against the current ideology. How would you feel being fired from your job, all those little socklettes depending on you, because you said some now verboten thing.

It's all well and good when it's just cancelling people who say "Wrong Things," but the problem is, public opinion shifts, never know when you find yourself on the wrong end of a pointy stick.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes - and I recall that Tanden deleted Tweets before she was interviewed, but that wasn't enough. I know people who keep the absolute minimal online signature because of this kind of thing. The cancel culture I think of when posting the meme is not related directly to this, but to concerns about statues &c. I was curious what Saidit would think. So it helps to have this info.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I wonder, did a white guy draw this?

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Huh, he is, odd. Thanks for the quick reply.

[–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think he's got the last frame backward

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No he's got it right. Because in the end these people are wrong for trying to "Cancel" a person that has nothing to do with the previous five frames. While it may seem like the illiberal left is winning, they are employing a loosing strategy that requires constant censorship, word redefinitions, and defamation. None of these pictures tells the story accurately. They only disingenuously attempt to reduce all these events to the common denominator of white men. This is no different than blaming innocent black people for the criminal actions of other black people, past or present.

Aztecs killed and enslaved so many people that they literally depopulated the area around them. The Salem witch trials were shown to be land & asset grabs (and women played a huge role in the false accusations of other women). About 1% of the population owned slaves with Jews playing a significant role in the financing of slave ships and cotton processing. The other two frames are so vague that you must simply accept that white men are to blame implicitly.

These illiberal fascists are playing a dangerous game. They clearly have genocidal intentions. And while I can say for certain many innocent white men are going to get unfairly persecuted for the time being, the line can't hold. These people have built a tower of babel.

[–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just noticed that at least 3 of the 4 glaring characters in the last frame are the oppressed character in the prior frames, and that puts a completely different spin on the whole strip. Now I take it to be about how the bigoted white man's past is finally catching up with him. And in which case the whole strip is nothing more than a trite, one dimensional exercise in liberal propaganda masquerading as intellectual posturing.

In short it's saying that Cancel Culture for the first 500 years was practiced by the oppressor. But now the oppressed have the upper hand. Take that, evil white man!

You have an interesting take on it and one that I didn't even consider, but I think you're reading too much into it. Though you make a valid point about how facts do not matter when it comes to left ideology; Revising history is one of the main tools in the Marxist playbook.