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[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The 'other' I (and Foucault &c) refer to are the marginalized, under-represented, foreign, alien &c.

Those are the left's ingroups - i.e. the right's outgroups. It's all explained in that essay.

They're normally not considered the 'other' by the left

Sure they are. Why do you think the left allied with Islam after 9/11? Makes perfect sense.

They think they're making America American, when in fact every policy and approach during the past 4 years was specifically anti-American.

LOL you're doing it right now. Treating your fellow Americans as The Other.

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Thanks - but all of this is remarkably oversimplified.

If for example I say an executive order by Trump is UnAmerican or Anti-American, my reference can be to American tradition, rather than to assumptions of an ingroup or outgroup. This isn't "othering" Trump (for exmample), but notes that the policy is itself at odds with our National Identity. Indeed, the policy threatens to disenfranchise many in the US, in that case. This is not about the person, but about the destruction of something essential to the 99%. Would a policy be part of an outgroup? No, seems not. Also this:

the left allied with Islam after 9/11

This is absolutely false. It's disinformation.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What the fuck? The left absolutely took Islam's side after 9/11. I don't even think this is remotely controversial. Blame America, remember? The little Eichmanns? They have a common enemy: western culture.

OK present some examples of the left resisting Islam. Remember when they deployed themselves as human shields in Iraq?

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left absolutely took Islam's side after 9/11

I am sorry to disagree - but there is absolutely no evidence for this. Do you remember 9/11 and the responses to it? No, the "left" certainly did not side with Islam. Perhaps you want to say that there were concerns from the "left" that the US not engage in a war with Iraq, and should instead focus on Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. As we know, people in these latter countries were responsible for the attack, which was not concected with anyone in Iraq. Mossad arranged the misleading photos and other materials that committed the US in Iraq. Cheney was behind much of it, and it received bi-partisan support.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

OK dude. Apparently we all hallucinated leftists screaming Islamophobia and taking their side in every dispute. Remember, the right's outgroups are the left's ingroups.

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...unless we are talking about actions (rather than labor, work, people, race, political affiliation, class, religion, color, groups, nationality, polarization, generalizations, simiplifications, &c). Our actions define us, not the other stuff.

(As discussed in Hannah Arend't 'The Human Condition')

[EDIT: I appreciate that outgroups and the 'other' sometimes use their 'otherness' in political discuscorses, or they use the 'race card' or 'victimhood card' or similar, and that those are indeed 'actions'. I would agree that this is a major problem, but would argue that this is not taken too seriously by the majority in most cases.]