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[–]bjam27 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

A minor defended his life from liberal pedophiles attacking him.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

He was there to kill someone. It's obvious. And he managed to kill two wonderful people.

[–]Comatoast 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2020/09/03/joseph-rosenbaum-sex-offender-arizona/

I can't tell if you're being facetious or not.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Are you serious?

[EDIT]First, follow the links provided in that article and they will not lead you to any evidence.

Second, did you see the video of the kid murdering him? Did he look like he was about to rape the kid in the middle of the street?

Third, look at the lies this fascist rag posts: https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/category/national-news/

Fourth, look at what we know of the shitty editor: https://muckrack.com/jim-piwowarczyk

Fifth, if the person that the kid killed is on a sex offender list, you do realize that this can be due to an accusation that may not have been fully justified.

Sixth, if the victim was on a sex offender list, this is entirely unrelated to the kid murdering him. (Per the video.)

[–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Alright, darlin.. you've gotta scroll down to find the official court documents. There's images of all 11 counts.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't call me darlin, darlin.

[–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Unfurl your fucking undies and look at the information.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see the scans.

I'll add a strike-through to point #1 above.

Thank you, darlin

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ok, neat. Now that our love spat has ended I'll tend to the rest of these:

2) This is retarded people doing retarded things.

3 and 4) I followed a series of other sites to get to the information promising the goods. The only thing I gave a fart about, frankly.

5 and 6) Well, evidence shows me otherwise andit appears that he had quite the run in with more than one kid under 15. Wasn't just on a sex offender list, he straight up sodomized kids. Can't complain that he's dead.

[–]TheJamesRocket 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

He was there to kill someone.

Wrong. Kyle was confronted by Rosenbaum, who threatened and cornered him, and then tried to grab his gun. Kyle feared for his life and shot him. He was then confronted by more assailants who were carrying weapons. Kyle tried to de-escalate the sitation, but they refused to calm down. When Kyle retreated on foot, they chased after him and knocked him to the ground. Only then did he open fire. This is an open and shut case of self defense, 100% justified.

We have the video footage to prove it. Read it and weep.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You do realize that the person who brings an AR to an unarmed protest could at the very least fire a warning short, rather than shoot directly at people the moment he trips over himself? There are various laws about this form of endangerment and lethal fource against unarmed people. He fucked up and unnecessarily killed two people. He should pay.

[–]TheJamesRocket 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

You do realize that the person who brings an AR to an unarmed protest

Wow, theres so many things wrong with that. First off, this wasn't a protest, it was a riot. Those people were destroying private businesses and setting things on fire. Second, some of the rioters actually were carrying weapons. Third, Kyle wasn't some lone gunman out looking for trouble: He was with a local militia who were defending private businesses.

could at the very least fire a warning short

You don't seem to realise that in many jurisdictions, it is illegal to fire warning shots. With firearms, the general rule is not to use them unless your life is in danger. From a legal standpoint, warning shots are thus in a hazy ground. And at any rate, they will not repel a deranged attacker who has no regard for his own life, as Rosenbaum was.

rather than shoot directly at people the moment he trips over himself

Kyle shot Rosenbaum only after he had been cornered, and after he tried to take his gun. Kyle was then chased by the other rioters who knocked him to the ground, and kicked him while he was down. That was when he shot the other two assailants. Kyles life was in danger.

There are various laws about this form of endangerment and lethal fource against unarmed people.

You do realise that one of the assailants was actually carrying a handgun when he was shot? And that both of the other two assailants had tried to take Kyles gun from him? Whenever someone trys to grab a weapon off another person, that escalate things in to a deadly force situation.

He fucked up and unnecessarily killed two people. He should pay.

No. Kyle was with a local militia who were protecting local businesses against rioters and arsonists. He was persued and attacked by violent rioters, who struck him repeatedly when he was down. Those men were criminals who were trying to cause him bodily harm. Kyle was 100% justified in shooting them. It is an open and shut case of self defense.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

First off, this wasn't a protest, it was a riot.

NO - it was a peaceful protest, with the exception of a handful of agitators, who were likely right-wing (per video evidence)

it is illegal to fire warning shots

It's also illegal to kill unarmed protestors. The warning shot would have been the better alternative.

Kyles life was in danger.

Because he brought an AR to a peaceful protest? There is also no evindence that anyone tried to kill the kid. It was heroic to try to get the AR from him, as he posed a danger to others.

You do realise that one of the assailants was actually carrying a handgun when he was shot?

Yes - Grosskreutz was shot in the arm and seriously wounded. Hopefully he'll win the $10 million lawsuit against the kid.

Kyle was with a local militia who were protecting local businesses against rioters and arsonists

Who were themselves staying near the businesses, whereas the kid decided to fuck with people in the street, who naturally tried to disarm him, as he was obviously a danger to everyone. Rittenhouse is obviously guilty of wanton endangerment and manslaughter (x2). And there is video evidence. If there is any justice, he will spend years in jail, lose the $10 million lawsuits against him, and worse.

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

NO - it was a peaceful protest,

Wrong. There had been riots in Kenosha for 2 days already when Kyle and his friends showed up. The 'peaceful protesters' had set numerous businesses on fire. As a matter of fact, Rosenbaum (the first man to be shot) was observed pushing a burning dumpster towards a gas station! That was actually what set the entire incident off. Someone from Kyles group put out the fire, which infuriated Rosenbaum and made him become violent.

with the exception of a handful of agitators, who were likely right-wing

Prove it.

Also, how do you explain Rosenbaums arsonry?

It's also illegal to kill unarmed protestors.

Your description is grossly at odds with reality. These were violent rioters who picked fights and physically assaulted a 17 year old, putting his life in danger. And as mentioned before, one of them was carrying a pistol when he was shot. Kyle was entirely justified in defending himself.

The warning shot would have been the better alternative.

Reality disagrees with you. Especially since one of Kyles friends actually did fire a warning shot at Rosenbaum, which still failed to deter him. He was completely deranged, and had no regard for his own safety. Lethal force was justified, especially when he tried to grab Kyles gun.

Because he brought an AR to a peaceful protest?

Because Kyle was kocked down after being hit with a skateboard, and because his assailents were kicking him when he was down. Stop being obtuse.

There is also no evindence that anyone tried to kill the kid. It was heroic to try to get the AR from him, as he posed a danger to others.

Your seriously delusional if you think that. First off, Rosenbaum was the first of the rioters to try to grab Kyles gun off him. He was enraged because one of the militiamen had put out the fire that he started. The other assailants hit Kyle with a skateboard and were kicking him when he was down. Thats not heroic, thats cowardly and stupid.

Yes - Grosskreutz was shot in the arm and seriously wounded.

Glad you acknowledge that he was carrying a weapon. So much for your 'unarmed, peaceful protesters.'

Who were themselves staying near the businesses, whereas the kid decided to fuck with people in the street, who naturally tried to disarm him, as he was obviously a danger to everyone.

You have obviously been listening to biased MSM reporting on the Kenosha shooting. You really ought to read the Wikipedia page on this whole incident, it spells everything out quite clearly. Kyle was not at fault. He was defending himself from violent assailants.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The 'peaceful protesters' had set numerous businesses on fire.

99% of the protestors were peaceful. Right wing agitators from out of town arrived and tried to burn businesses. There are videos of these white, right-wing and anarchist agitators.

Also, how do you explain Rosenbaums arsonry?

If that's true, it is one example that does not represent the 99% of peacecul protestors. Why do you insist it would?

one of them was carrying a pistol when he was shot

Again - one person is not representative of 99% of the peaceful protestors.

One of Kyles friends actually did fire a warning shot at Rosenbaum

Rosenbaum was not facing that person and would not have seen the warning shot as related to him.

Assailents were kicking him when he was down.

Because he had an AR and was a danger to them, obviously. Removing the AR from the lunatic was one of the ways to protect themselves. You're rather obsuse in this case.

Rosenbaum was the first of the rioters to try to grab Kyles gun off him.

Because Kyle was threatening people. He could have remained with the building he was supposedly to protect, but was instead roaming around, threatening people, because he's an idiot. Removing his AR was a natural instinct for the unarmed (mostly) protestors.

So much for your 'unarmed, peaceful protesters.'

Hardly anyone was armed, and the two who were killed were not armed. Why do you insist that the one gun on one person was representative of 99% of the other people? It's just false.

He was defending himself from violent assailants.

Hence his reason to make the long trip to the peaceful protest with his AR. So that he could defend himself from (mostly) unarmed protestors by shooting them when they approached. He was there as an aggressor, and you can see videos of him stirring up trouble. He did what he wanted to do.

[–]TheJamesRocket 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

99% of the protestors were peaceful.

And you know that how, exactly? Did you go out and do a survey on the rioters, asking how many of them had been violent?

Right wing agitators from out of town arrived and tried to burn businesses.

Citation needed.

If that's true, it is one example that does not represent the 99% of peacecul protestors. Why do you insist it would?

If one person in a group of rioters was committing arson and vandalism, then others probably were too. Some of these rioters were known to be members of BLM, a domestic terrorist group. We have no reason to believe they were acting peacefully, when they have shown how violent they can be in so many occasions.

Again - one person is not representative of 99% of the peaceful protestors.

Except you don't actually believe that, do you? 99% of the people at the Capitol protests were peaceful, but you still call them terrorists and insurrectionists. The only thing you care about is the ideology of those who are being violent. If liberals do it, they are good, and if conservatives do it, they are bad.

Rosenbaum was not facing that person and would not have seen the warning shot as related to him.

Maybe. Or maybe he heard the shot and didn't care. We'll never know, because hes dead now.

Because he had an AR and was a danger to them, obviously. Removing the AR from the lunatic was one of the ways to protect themselves.

Kyle was no more of a danger than the rest of his militia friends. He was singled out by Rosenbaum because he thought Kyle extinguished his dumpster fire. BTW, you should know that it is a very bad idea to try and disarm someone. That excalates the situation to the point where lethal force is legally justified. For instance, if you try to take a cops gun, they are allowed to shoot you. Its much harder to disarm someone than the movies would have you believe.

Because Kyle was threatening people.

What makes you say that?

Hardly anyone was armed, and the two who were killed were not armed.

We don't know how many of the rioters were armed that night. One of the three assailants were carrying guns. There were maybe 100 people at the riot, and we don't know how many of them were packing. What makes you think that only one of the rioters was armed? What makes you think that the one person who was carrying just happened to be involved in that incident?

So that he could defend himself from (mostly) unarmed protestors by shooting them when they approached.

No, not when they approached. Only after they chased Kyle, knocked him to the ground, and kicked him while he was down. He was a 17 year old kid being assaulted by violent protesters.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you go out and do a survey on the rioters, asking how many of them had been violent?

There is no evidence of guns on most of the peaceful protestors

Citation needed.

See the videos - easy to locate

If one person in a group of rioters was committing arson and vandalism, then others probably were too.

If there were others, there weren't more than a handful, if that, based on video evidence.

Except you don't actually believe that, do you? 99% of the people at the Capitol protests were peaceful

Seems you missed the Parler videos of the dozens beating security guards and ransacking offices, chambers, etc.

Maybe. Or maybe he heard the shot and didn't care. We'll never know, because hes dead now.

The person making the shot that you mention was not Kyle, on whom the victim was focused. Simple. Some guns are not very loud.

...it is a very bad idea to try and disarm someone.

Normally, though perhaps not if you think you or others will get shot unless you disarm the unhinged Kyle. Seems to have been part of the motivation for the victim.

What makes you say that?

Kyle approached and harrassed people; he didn't stay by the building

What makes you think that only one of the rioters was armed?

OK - not just one armed person - though there is no evidence that most of the people were armed, and this is unlikely

No, not when they approached. Only after they chased Kyle, knocked him to the ground, and kicked him while he was down. He was a 17 year old kid being assaulted by violent protesters.

Because he had the AR and was annoying the protestors. (As we keep arguing)

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

🙄

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Now we all know you're a troll.

You pushed it too far this time.

Good game while it lasted.

Don't whine, take the L and come back with a different name.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Who are 'we'? (BTW: I now see you are a moderator of three troll subsaidits. Pot, meet kettle. )

Did that make you feel tingly in your special place?

Is this a game to you?

What is an L?

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Yep, that's generally what traitors and patriots look like the world over.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

...only accorting to QAnon psychos.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nope.

Traitors get down on their knees and throw their country away usually for a grievance they have blown out of proportion compared to the real problems they could face or simply because they think they are smarter than anyone else.

Patriots stand up for themselves and their fellow citizens, they put their lives on the line, usually looking at real practical issues and major crimes being committed by those looking to destroy their state/community for selfish reasons.

As I say, this is the world over not just petty US party politics and name calling.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not what taking a knee meant in that context. Consider the context.

Murdering BLM protestors is now patriotic.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If Kylie Rittenhouse wasn't there two people would be alive, although I'm not technically sure what he did was illegal. It'd be a tough jury to be on.

Don't really give a fuck about the kneeling during the pledge. I didn't use to stand or recite them and nobody cared. The whole loyalty oath every morning seems very unAmerican to me.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. And I think few people remember that NFL games previously did not have the national anthem. My main concern about the so-called 'patriot' is that there is a movement of people who think he's a legitimate patriot, whereas Kaepernick's protest was a good example of a peaceful protest, and thus more patriotic than driving to neighboring states, fully armed, with the plan to potentially shoot peaceful protestors.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

u/magnora7

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When you do this, it's like I'm being reported to the principal's office....