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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

Are you referring to this?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Germany

If so, the "original anti-fascists" were much earlier, known as the "international left" and later the Arditi del Popolo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arditi_del_Popolo

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist_and_anti-Fascist_violence_in_Italy_(1919%E2%80%931926)

German fascism was initially a carbon copy of Italian fascism, and to understand anti-fascist groups, one should look at the fascist moments they were against. It is quintessentially non-American to be a fascist.

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If so, the "original anti-fascists" were much earlier, known as the "international left" and later the Arditi del Popolo

The German Antifa wasn't the first group to oppose fascists, but it was the first group to call itself "antifa" and use that logo. That group is what modern anti-fascists model themselves after.

It is quintessentially non-American to be a fascist.

Is it?

https://patriotfront.us/manifesto/

In its founding, the US, like the fascists, modeled itself after the Roman Republic, and was explicitly defined as a nation of "White persons of good character." Fasces feature prominently in the Lincoln and Washington Monuments, in the Oval Office, and in Congress (along with swastikas). The National Socialists also had a particular fondness for the American Indian.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

Do you genuinely believe in what is written in that manifesto?

Do you know that those quotations are taken out of context and reorgnized to distort the approaches of the American experiment?

Do you support the group at patriotfront.us?

Do you see similarities between Germany during 1933-39 and any development in the US? If so, when, and which developments?

More info about that website: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Front

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

Do you know that those quotations are taken out of context and reorgnized to distort the approaches of the American experiment?

The United States was an experiment in pan-Europeanism. This idea that anyone in the world can be an American was invented by Jews mainly starting in the early 20th century. Read Culture of Critique.

Do you see similarities between Germany during 1933-39 and any development in the US?

No, but I do see many parallels with the Weimar Era.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

I know of MacDonald's works and associated debates, and I agree with much of the social history he tries to address, though I do not necessarily agree with "evolutionary psychology" and some of his other points. I also don't see his approaches as necessarily white supremacist, but instead as a social history.

Patriotfront.us is however certainly white supremacist, and spreading disinformation about US history that is dangerous, when one considers that this is helping develop domestic terrorism.

The fairness doctrine should be reinstated.

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Patriotfront.us is however certainly white supremacist, and spreading disinformation about US history that is dangerous, when one considers that this is helping develop domestic terrorism.

To stop domestic terrorism in the US, just dismantle the FBI.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Really - dismantle the only agency going after the domestic terrorists? Without the FBI, domestic terrorism will continue.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

They have been involved in pretty much every recent terror plot. They have been entrapping people for decades, whether they be nationalists, communists, Muslims, environmentalists, animal rights people, whoever. They are a secret police agency like any other, and they target any form of political dissent.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

So you're implying the FBI caused the recent terror plots? Any reasonable evidence for this? I've not even read this as a conspiracy theory.

As for what happened under J. Edgar Hoover, that's rather astonishing.

There have been problems with the CIA (Iran/Contra, drugs, developing wars & regime change internationally, &c).

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The FBI, the CIA, the NSA, Homeland Security, FEMA, the Secret Service, Federal Marshals, and many more agencies, organizations, and positions have been used by corrupt parties for the past seventy years to commit legal and quasi-legal sins, all in the name of furthering globalist control (what I often refer to as the GovCorp, because these people can be found anywhere someone brings corporate ideas into government... so, everywhere)

You ask for evidence like we could take these people to court, or something. You are living in the world they created for you. Now, I have family and close friends with family who are involved in one or all of these groups. I'm not saying there is some grand conspiracy involving every single member of each group, but to blindly ignore the subtle loopholes they've used to legally consolidate power is just plain foolish. The FBI and a few other groups could come and take either of us away right now, and no governmental agency or watch-group would do a damned thing about it, even if they were lucky enough to get proof.

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    How do you know, patrician?

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