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[–]dontbuyanylogos 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I reckon this has been known since at least the Roman empire or possibly the Egyptians and secret societies have been directing the rise and fall of civilizations ever since

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Meh, England, Wales and Scotland have existed in much the same form for over a thousand years. It's not that hard.

[–]dontbuyanylogos 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

not really England had a civil war and was taken over by a Dutch coup in 1688 and all three were separate countries for a long time

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'm talking about the 3 separate countries.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Scotland was changed by the English and lasted as it was because every time a legitimate rebel-king arose to change things, he lost. A thousand years ago, Scotland was still known by many other names depending on who is talking about it. The Scotland and Wales you are talking about are actually just English-pasty states, so, unwilling members of the English Empire. Now, how did the English last as long as they did? You fucking tell me, because I just don't get it.

[–]dontbuyanylogos 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Now, how did the English last as long as they did? You fucking tell me, because I just don't get it.

Varying genres of strict Christianity that prohibited sex before marriage.

Perhaps..

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Societys are just as mortal as the people who create them. They undergo life cycles just like a living organism. They are born, they grow to maturity, then they decline and die. The lifespan of a society is measured in human generations. Some Empires are more unstable than others, though. Some of them are pre-destined to live fast and die young.

Of course, there are always Elites in the background who have a disproportionate influence in their Empires policys. The Egyptians, Persians, Greeks, Romans, etc all had their own Elites who dictated Imperial strategy. They were largely responsible for the victorys and defeats of their own Empire.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Now if you want a real red pill on the rise and fall of civilizations read some Oswald Spengler.

[–]cumguzzler 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The USA had no empire before WWII. So they have around 160 years of bliss in store for us

[–]TheJamesRocket 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thats completely wrong. The U.S. has been an empire ever since 1845, when they annexed Mexico. That was 176 years ago.

After the events of the 2020 election, the U.S. has lost its legitimacy in the eyes of its people and the world. It is an unsustainable Empire that is on a rapid path to disintegration.

And BTW, the age of an Empire lasting 250 years is just an ad hoc rule of thumb. John Glubb trimmed the data to better fit his hypothesis.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nope. Magna Carta stupid ass bitches! The UK had a king and parliament since 1215.

[–]dontbuyanylogos 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The whole rise and fall of civilizations thing really interests me so I'm gonna drop some resources:

Sir John Bagot Glubb

Tragedy and Hope

Sex and Culture

Oswald Spengler

[–]buffalo_fart 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oswald Spengler, does he have any audio books?

[–]killerjavi98 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imagine all the secret societies pulling the strings over the years.