If the masks work...

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

A+++

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL. Thanks!

I heard it most of it from one of the HighImpactFlix within:
/s/politics/comments/719m/youtube_political_videos_you_missed_this_month_a_l/
/s/politics/comments/719n/youtube_political_videos_you_missed_this_month_m_z/

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (50 children)

It bugs me when people say "If people just wore masks for X amount of time there'd be no pandemic" because people do wear masks in my area and we still have a ton of covid cases.

It's a safety blanket. It feels better to be doing something, anything, even if it isn't effective. Still doesn't make it less annoying tho.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Wearing masks is like masturbating to make babies.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Wait, what? Is that what I'm doing wrong?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Making babies or wearing masks?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The case numbers are coming from shitty tests, and disingenuous reporting. The disingenuous part is that most of these people would've died normally, but now they are being shoved into your face with the extra bonus (for GovCorp) of citizens being fearful of also dying, which would be less normal if you are in good health and don't lick people or their buttholes.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Plus they're censoring all non-"official" ideas from amateurs to experts, skeptics, scientists, doctors, nurses, and everyone. Even ass lickers (more fun than you'd think).

[–]worldowedexplanation 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My mother in law wears her mask in all the stores AND STILL GOT SICK — not with “Covid,” (she tested negative), but how the fuck do you get sick if masks work?! They don’t do shit!

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (32 children)

Masks do help, though. They don't stop the spread, but they do reduce it. Social distancing reduces it further. In fact, if 100% of the population adhered to both, we could get the R value below 1.0 (meaning on average each existing case will led to less than one new case), and take care of this pandemic on our own, without vaccines.

But because we've got conspiracy-loving chuckleheads like the one that posted this meme, we'll never get to R<1. So if we want to put a stop to it, it's vaccines, spend years waiting for saturation, or go back to normal and let the virus rip through the population, kill millions, and create long-term issues for many millions more.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

You are frighteningly deep into that kool-aid.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

science = kool-aid?

Consider the original meaning of the term:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_the_Kool-Aid

A cult drank the stuff, not a group that is anything like most people (eg. most people believe in science)

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Science(!) is edit: a cult. People have made a cult out of "science"

[–]madcow-5 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

I pointed that out in a thread the other day, stating the cult followers scream that someone is "anti science" at the slightest perception of criticism of their politics. Immediately, the user you're responding to chimed in and then spent two days ranting at me, calling me anti science..

I've never seen a point go over someone's head so hard.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I think they purposefully ignore major points in our arguments on purpose. They act very similarly to other known shills on Reddit, which is why I often compare them to the establishment mouth-pieces over there.

[–]madcow-5 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Not super familiar with this other user Fediwhatever, but I see socks in every single thread making arguments that don't hold up and just being over the top dishonest by as you say ignoring major points. Seems unnecessarily provocative too.

It's just weird because this community is too small to actually have paid shills, or even volunteer shills. It's like they just get off on arguing whether or not they know they're wrong.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Both are shills in my guesstimation.

Our community may be small, but it's a perpetual archived resource and is and will be read by many non-participants.

Truth-seekers, big and small, are all a threat. I didn't expect this meme to explode more than my other attempts. Somehow it did. That's how the truth-seeking goes too.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You were also ranting plenty. And speaking of missing the point, when the overwhelming majority of geologists & archeologists will tell you that the earth is several billion years old, and definitely not the 6-10,000 implied in the bible, it does make you a science denier to claim the jury is still out on the matter, regardless of what Kurt Wise has to say about it.

Similarly, when the overwhelming majority of climatologists will tell you that the trend of rising temperatures and rising sea levels is being caused primarily by anthropogenic (human in origin) factors, and not the natural causes implied by Fox News, you are also a science denier when you claim the jury is still out on the matter, regardless of what Richard Lindzen tells you.

Your original post was acting like political disagreement is what will get you called anti-science or a science denier. It isn't. Actually dismissing the overwhelming consensus of scientists, which you were doing, is what gets you called a science denier.

[–]madcow-5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

when the overwhelming majority of geologists & archeologists will tell you that the earth is several billion years old, and definitely not the 6-10,000 implied in the bible, it does make you a science denier to claim the jury is still out on the matter, regardless of what Kurt Wise has to say about it.

Literally never said such a thing.

And you seem to be missing the point to, that someone disagreeing with you on a political subject doesn't mean they're a bible-thumping "#SCIENCE!" denier.

I'm not religious at all.

Your original post was acting like political disagreement is what will get you called anti-science or a science denier. It isn't.

That's literally what caused Socks to chime in and call me a science denier. All I did was point this out, and pointing that out got you guys all fired up, screaming "#SCIENCE!" denier!

Actually dismissing the overwhelming consensus of scientists, which you were doing, is what gets you called a science denier.

Literally nowhere did I do this.

And you're now doing exactly what I'm talking about. Claiming someone is a bible-thumping science denier if you feel like they're criticizing you or might disagree with your politics.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I brought up young earth creationism because it's an even more obnoxious example of denialism, that I assumed you would understand the ridiculousness of, so that I could draw parallels to help you see why what you were saying qualifies as science denialism. I didn't bring it up because I was accusing you of being a young earth creationist.

In regards to your 2nd claim, that you never dismissed the scientific consensus on global warming, I guess I should remind you of your own comment from just a few days ago that spurred that whole argument. You claimed that asserting that human activity is the primary cause of global warming was a "tremendous leap" and that "the jury was still out on the matter'. That you used that 2nd phrase is why I used the same phrase in my previous comment, to draw the parallels between what you were saying, and what a young earth creationist would say about geology.

[–]madcow-5 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You're doing exactly what I posted about... Just digging your heals in because you know you've made yourself an example of it.

Someone disagrees with a political view or policy outlook, or criticizes a study = bible thumping science denier.

The comment was about how cult-like the #SCIENCE! worshippers have become, and you're a prime example of it. You believe in blindly trusting what someone in a suit on the television says, and confuse that for science.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Alleged "overwhelming consensus of scientists", according to renowned propagandists and established liars in the media, government, and corporate science.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

SCIENTISM:

A blind faith dogma in the benevolence of "experts" and corporations making obscene profits from their allegedly safe but very secret and privatized so-called "science".

Authentic science is a transparent discovery and open verification process (not settled) of elimination based on a hypothesis. Since many factors may corrupt this process it must be openly verifiable to eliminate junk science from legitimate results.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Actually the cult was executed with guns and cyanide - not Kool-Aid, the cover story. A CIA MK Ultra type thing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's as if the world we think we live in is not real (!)

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's almost as if there were shills, intentional and/or ignorant, paid or not, pushing us into being more easily manipulated and exploited, along with the herd, organized almost as if there really were psyops to socially engineer manufactured consent...

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Dude...

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Yep, that's the pie in the sky thinking that annoys me. It's working BUT excuses for why it isn't. Must be that scapegoat. Maybe the masks help, but it's never going to get rid of it.

or go back to normal and let the virus rip through the population, kill millions, and create long-term issues for many millions more.

That may be what we end up doing anyway. We may not have a choice.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

New Zealand has no new cases. Australia has almost none. It is possible to keep it under control, you just need a population that is willing (or forced) to make some sacrifices for the good of the collective.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Their population density is low, that seems to be a major factor. NY got reamed for the opposite reason.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think NY got reamed because it's also a media/power/control center with more influence than almost all other places - specifically in the nation they're trying to intentionally collapse and steal from. This means the population must be forced or frightened into going along with the scam.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

"or forced" Now we see what you are actually in support of.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do I really need to explain to you how countries controlled by governments like the CCP operate?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No, I've been there. And, I live in the more complicated version here in the US. Quell another fire, monkey.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Quell another fire, monkey.

Lol, you guys say the most random shit sometimes when you're upset.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh baby, you haven't upset me. I don't come here to get upset :)

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You need to keep it low and control boarders. The later is what many liberal western countries have fallen down on but Asia and Australia/NZ did differently. The UK got it's cases very low but kept it's borders wide open so we just got more rich super spreaders moving it about.

Of course those who suggested closing boarders were called nazis so what can you do against that.

[–]madcow-5 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

My biggest issue is it seems the very leftists reeeeeing about conservatives criticizing the lockdowns are the ones still filling up the bars in my town.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What was the Biden/Trump vote split in your county?

[–]madcow-5 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd have to dig for it, but it's definitely a blue county.

edit: looks like it's 50/48.

Much closer than I expected, but the city I live in is definitely the most blue part of it.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Pure fantasy, based on a scam fantasy.

We'll never get to R<1 because they won't stop censoring the countless voices who protest against the scientism, propaganda, hysteria, madness, lockdown, and global tyranny. With freedom of expression we could fundamentally prove it's all a scam and that the only conspiracies are among the billionaires and their ruling class takeover.

How do you feel about exhaled farts? I guess if I'm wearing pants it's safe - even if you can smell what I dealt?

I suppose you think the bailouts are helping too?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

/s/memes/comments/719x/a_face_mask_is/

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Sweet!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

No - there isn't sufficient social distancing and mask usage, and testing and quarantine. That's the problem. There are several ways to get COVID19. It's not that complicated.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

I live in a very compliant area, if the precautions were working I would expect to see a lower infection rate.

Instead of masks we probably should have just shut down all the walmarts. I hadn't been there until last night. People were wearing masks but everyone was packed in there and I didn't see employees disinfecting anything. Real wtf moment last night seeing that. I can't imagine another business getting away with that.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's so bizzare watching 'public freakouts' at places like Walmart. That place is a magnet for crazy. In their defense, though, this is what happens when income inequality is so severe that corporations like Walmart and Amazon make billions while their employees live on food stamps. It costs us, the tax payers, to allow businesses the size of Walmart and Amazon (and Facebook) to exist, not to mention all of the small businesses that ahve closed. But I digress. If I might pick one argument here, it's the Walmart comment that got me. If only Walmarts were better managed, and paid a living wage. Also, the poorest people are suffering the most this year. God bless...

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This actually makes sense. I agree with all of it.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Where are the McDonald's super-spreaders? Have you ever worked fast-food? They aren't following your precious rules.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If Walmart and McDonald's were super spreaders I'm not sure anyone would be allowed to officially say so. Anything cooked shouldn't be a problem if they are doing basic food safety like they should be anyways.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

If this were a real pandemic, all the people eating at McDonalds should be getting sick. They never wear their masks, I know for a fact hundreds of stores aren't even enforcing you wearing it over your mouth, or having it on you. Every speedway I've been into has been the same. Why do we only hear about weddings spreading the virus? Or Thanksgiving dinners? But NEVER McDonald's or burger king, or any of these shitty low tier places.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I would put BK a notch above McDonalds. I won't eat at the latter but a flame broiled mustard whopper is pretty tasty.

It makes a certain amount of sense, holiday and wedding get togethers have people coming from all over -- and drinking. I didn't think it was a great idea for my wife to go to her grandmother's funeral, since the people not only came from 4 different states, our state is across the country from the others. There was a lot of potential to spread something. Nobody got sick though. And grandma died from a stroke, not covid. 92 years, that's pretty impressive.

But NEVER McDonald's or burger king, or any of these shitty low tier places.

Again though, that's big money. McD's could be serving up covid burgers with a side of space aids and I don't know that anyone would report on it.

On an aside, I don't get how supposedly poor people eat every goddamned meal at McD's. Are they living off the dollar menu? Even $3-$5 every meal per person adds up. On the high end of that would be equivalent to buying $400 of groceries per person per month.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You've inspired a meme!!!

[–]zyxzevn 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Even More info:

Do Mask Mandates Work? New Analysis Suggests They Don't
On one of reddit's forbidden science&news publishing sites.

The explanation is that masks makes the particles smaller. And these smaller particles spread more easily.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

This is stupid, it's like saying "If speed limits work, why the seatbelts? If seatbelts work, why the air bags? If air bags work, why ABS breaks?"

[–]HiddenFox 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Oof.... talk about hitting the nail on the head with that analogy...

[–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This guy posts tons of retarded memes like this. I'm not sure if he makes them himself or he's in some group, but mixing up "who's" with "whose" is about what you'd expect from someone that would find something this dumb persuasive in the first place.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Why don't you go spellcheck socks, or another one of you establishment types?

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Because more tact is in order when dealing with people you actually like.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Oh, so very sweet of you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Earendil, you troll, you

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So long as I come here for my own purposes, I will oppose you people the same way you oppose others. You play the troll, you get the troll.

At least I have experience in this world. Step outside, please. You need some sun.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was of course joking.

Seems you like to assume that everything is either about you, or about your judgements of others (as this is a trend in your comments). You can probably do better.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I actually make them all up myself, since about when COVID started - unless I indicate otherwise or post in topical subs.

Yes, that's a bad typo, posted last night, right before going to bed. Were I more awake I might have caught it. It wasn't underlined in red. Rarely does any meme end up the way it started. If I recall correctly, I was going to say "who's going to be held responsible?" but that takes up too much space - plus the revised line cuts harder.

I don't need to persuade people. I aim to make them question. The last panel is the most important.

I would agree that you want multiple safety measures - WITHIN REASON. The hysteria on something less deadly than the flu is ridiculous. Lockdown on everything but big corporations is ridiculous. The vaccine agenda is ridiculous. Agenda 21 is ridiculous.

Vaccine manufacturer immunity is ridiculous.

[–]Sw0rdofDam0cles 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My eyes were glowing from the start, op. Thanks to their virtue signalling they've already provided everyone with lists of their useful idiots, proxies, fronts, and other pawns to start with.

[–]zyxzevn 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Scientific Sources

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A+++

Just in time to share with family for Xmas!!!

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

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    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks, but I'd heard it most of it from one of the HighImpactFlix within:
    /s/politics/comments/719m/youtube_political_videos_you_missed_this_month_a_l/
    /s/politics/comments/719n/youtube_political_videos_you_missed_this_month_m_z/

    The worst part: "who's" should be "whose". A bad typo, posted right before going to bed. Were I more awake I might have caught it. It wasn't underlined in red. Rarely does any meme end up the way it started. If I recall correctly, I was going to say "who's going to be held responsible?" but that takes up too much space - plus the revised line cuts harder.

    There is also a flaw in the logic, in that you can add multiple layers of safety precautions (within reason), as in the many features on cars (seat belts, air bags, etc). But it gets folks thinking - the main goal.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Idiotic meme with 4 of the most misleading statements. There is of course no single solution to a pandemic. Several very simple stemps will reduce the spread of it. That's it. It's not complicated. Why do so many people especially in the US insist on being dumbasses? The US was for a long time the international leader in relatively smart people. WTF

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    There is no pandemic, even by their perpetual re-definitions of the term and moving of goal posts.

    I'm Canadian.

    The US has never been a leader in smart people.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Imagine how surprised an American is to hear a Canadian say there is no [COVID19] pandemic. So your telling me there are people in Canada who cannot use Google, eh? :-)

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Socks is a waste of time, a timesuck - or a timesocks if you will.

    Google is corrupt and compromised too. Many of us in Canada know what's going on despite that.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Not fair resorting to name-calling, hoser.

    :-P

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    It's not name-calling. It's my assessment, plus a pun. While it can be a negative pejorative, it need not be. I've found many rabbit holes to be educational timesucks worth while. You are not worth any more of my time. We both know it.

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    It's been an honour. Happy holidays.