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[–]whistlepig 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

In case you read my previous reply... I'd like to say I like this one. I think it worked if it got socks to act like it was a personal attack.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Thanks for the ping. I've been busy the last couple days. I responded to socks.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

The irony is thick with this one, it is a good one! You got accused of being on the radical right for posting this lmaooooooo, that’s so funny to me.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Funny and insulting. I'm in a bad mood for it today, so meh.

[–]whistlepig 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

insulting to socks as well

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

This one goes out to all the moms I've loved...

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Some of them still trying to find where you hid their false teeth.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Deep inside them.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ew

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

Sometimes I wonder if the creators of these extreme right memes genuinely believe what they write. This is relatively well crafted specfically to be misleading, to equate science with 'liar propaganda' and to recommend instead 'alternative media sources' that are supposed to be non-corporate-dominated (though are often funded by special interest groups that are corporate shills; how do you think they're funded). There is also the typical finger pointing at the end, suggesting that ignorant people will continue to be ignorant if they believe in science. This is cancerous logic.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

"corrupt science hysteria"

This would be perfect for r/TheRightCantMeme

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    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

    LOL

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    someone's butthurt about being the dumb one I see

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    Yep, not that it would be difficult to hurt the feelings of someone called, Diogenes Junior. :-)

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    You could learn a lot from Diogenes. Try being a skeptic for a while. Or just go live in a tub. Either way.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    "corrupt science hysteria"

    "skeptic"

    I don't think you understand what words mean

    you literally have no grasp on objective reality is

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    " you literally have no grasp on objective reality is "

    This may be true for myself and so many others here on SaidIt. I'm willing to consider it. I keep looking at all the information that keeps coming and yet I can't help but be certain that "authorities" are always abusing their power, intentionally and/or systemically.

    Perhaps it is you who is uninformed, unskeptical, and without a grasp on objective reality, determined to flock with the status quo despite all evidence of intentional malevolence?

    Regardless it's my moral duty to warn people even if end up being a Cassandra.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Perhaps it is you who is uninformed, unskeptical, and without a grasp on objective reality,

    Uh, no.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I know , right!?!

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    To the ancient Greem and Roman there was moderate skepticism and extreme skepticism, just as there was moderate and extreme curiosity (see Cicero), and whereas skepticism and logic were a necessity, and taught in schools, not enough of it or too much of it would make one rather pathetic.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I lean left. I lean towards minarchism/voluntarism/anarchism more. Above all I lean away from corporatocracy bullshit.

    [–]whistlepig 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    Boy oh boy your comment makes me feel old. I still can't shake those several decades of my life when being anti-mainstream (tv and otherwise) was most decidedly a "leftist" view point. Yet, here we are... you're claiming this meme is not only "right", but "extreme right".

    Who is to be more offended by that claim? The actual "extreme right" or the anti-partisans than many of us here are?

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I take the historical approach. Anyone who lived through the 'yellow dog Democrats' of the 1970s will see that strategies for winning Dem. votes in the '70s were developed in the early '80s to secure a win for Reagan in '84, who was much more popular in '84 than in '80. He barely won in '80. The populist shift happened around that time, thanks especiallly to attacks on the FCC Fairness Doctrine:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FCC_fairness_doctrine

    Right wing propaganda, aloong with an increase in corporate lobbying, increased exponentially thereafter.

    [–]whistlepig 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    I don't know what question this answered or was responding to. What do you think it was a response to?

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's not a complete "response". It's a biased but fair assessment about propaganda shaping perceptions in the 70s and 80s - as always, and as reflected in Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent", "Necessary Illusions", and "Hegemony" - as well as countless other sources. Not really new, nor particularly insightful, like much of my not unique broken record spoutings, but might be of interest to readers so I still voted insightful (I vote for most stuff I read, primarily avoiding stuff I disagree with). Yet it seems untethered and like an incomplete thought. My criticism would not be about the content, but about what's missing - context...

    Just as the corporate media consensus seems to be "orange man bad" this decade, so too, in the 80s they were pushing Reaganomics and Thatcherism, busting up unions, hyping Satanic panic, and such - but at least they also presented alternatives. Greater than the TV perceptions on the duopoly, also missing, is the shadow government, deep state, covert ops, banksters, dealers, and monopolizing of the corporatocracy while freezing the average income of the general population while inflation rose yet markets soared while more became poor and global conflicts increased - across decades since the 70s. His assessment is biased vanilla wrapped up in rage-lite.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

    I like that. "Anti-partisans." I would also claim to be anti-non-partisan, because when they team up it's usually worse. Is there a simpler term for not buying into the duopoly?

    [–]whistlepig 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    lol... I don't know.. I'm still looking ;]

    [–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Sometimes I wonder if the creators of these extreme right memes genuinely believe what they write

    This guy in particular is super into conspiracies in general, including some of real right-wing shit like Holocaust denial. So I think he does believe it, it's just that you can expect this guy to swallow whatever conspiracy he comes across. He posts memes that do all the same lazy casting of anything that a normal person should consider credible as "propaganda".

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I didn't used to believe in half this conspiracy shit, largely because I'd never heard of it. However, I actually looked at the stuff the "radicals" were presenting. Sure, half of it looked like my nephew in high school made it on an old laptop, but you don't need a glossy high-budget documentary or website if your information is gold and profoundly earthshaking in it's undeniability.

    There are a lot of stupid conspiracies "in general" out there. Many if not most are misinformation bullshit to muddy the waters and discredit the legit corruption stories out there - just as you're trying to do. If you don't like SaidIt then you can fuck off. This place was founded to expose corruption to the masses without the extreme biased idiocy of political extremists. I'm not political. I'm anti-politics, just as I'm atheist. I won't believe lies and shit from authorities because they say so as they manipulate, deceive, exploit, and exterminate people.

    [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Many if not most are misinformation bullshit to muddy the waters and discredit the legit corruption stories out there

    Lol, no. You guys do a perfectly fine job ruining your own credibility.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    According to the brainwashed.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    I believe it with all my being. I wish they were better but they're the best counter-propaganda I can come up with. Every time I have an issue or idea to counter-spin I try to make it amusing and always try to get the message out.

    I'm anything but extreme right or far left and I'm certainly not Democrat or Republican. The fake "progressives" in the Dems are anything but progressive. I'm more like old-left Jimmy Dore progressive, mixed with a little centrism, a sprinkle of conservativism, much truth-seeking, anti-corruption, anti-war, and a lot of minarchism. Fuck all Big Government, banks, corporations, Big Tech, Big Pharma, Big Media, etc. Fuck em.

    I agree you can't trust all the sources out there. I KNOW you can't trust corporate media nor the government nor corporations.

    My goal is to get people looking and researching for themselves. Hopefully they don't get trapped by the stupid shit out there. Better than than be MSM zombies.

    I would agree if only they were pushing authentic science. Scientism is a dogmatic blind faith in corporate benevolence for ENORMOUS profits. That's what's being pushed now, not an open verifiable scientific method. Until it is your logic is a cancerous circle jerk.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    It's interesting that there are so many people in the US who have similar core beliefs like this, as I do, and have nontheless become undecided voters because of the DNC idiocy of nominating Hillary 4 years ago, not to mention the constant abuses of the GOP. And whereas GOP voters will tend to support ther candidates warts and all, with no questions, Dem voters will be very picky about what they want their public servants to do. Part of this is the failure of Neo-Liberalism, and must change. Biden and his team will not have the same kind unwavering of support from the people who voted on them, and will instead be dealing with a complex series of interests. It will be difficult to watch and engage in. I think Obama could have done much much more, especially to challenge approaches by the GOP. SO I too am annoyed with both parties, but I also see that in the current climate, younger people have become more political, and I hope that will result in improvements in political discourses in the coming years. There is the problem of polarized politics, and I am not sure how that will be challenged. Just now I looked up undecided voters and found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHjbDSOmeiM

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The Dems are 99% GOP in Dems clothing now. The old left is very much alive, but not represented at all. Bernie killed that over 4 years ago. Tulsi might give us hope on occasion, but she's got strange connections (as they all do), and she's effectively impotent, as Bernie, Kusinich, Stein, Nader, etc were. Perhaps a decent Libertarian candidate can turn that party from a joke into a contender. And the authentic progressive left has now been divided by greedy posers into absurdity.

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Grandma wants to know where her granddaughter got that 20 yr old laptop.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I didn't even look at it when I picked it. Next time I'll try to get some bleeding edge DARPA shit up in here.