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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you look at deaths per 1 million, here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

You'll see that Sweden has had 742 deaths/million.

"Mostly cases" applies to all countries. Look at the logarithmic scale (select top left):

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

This shows a steady number of deaths since March. Sweden is thus the same poorly managed COVID country as 23 other countries. And it's much easier to social distance in Sweden than elsewhere.

What seems to happen on saidit.net is that the voting system seems to favor posts that people want to believe rather than posts that they don't want to believe, but are likely true. And almost none of the posts on saidit.net are insightful or funny. There should be a WTF voting button. (I joined this site to learn more about it.)

[–]noice 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What do you think of the fact that Sweden has around the same number of deaths in 2020 as the past 10 years?

https://www.statista.com/statistics/525353/sweden-number-of-deaths/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is interesting but misleading:

7500 deaths will not appear appropriately in yearly statistics with around 90,000 deaths/year

There are many factors that are the causes of death. For example, under-5 mortality decreased dramatically in the past 10 years in Sweden. https://data.unicef.org/country/swe/

Also people live longer now than they did 10 years ago. http://www.healthdata.org/sweden

The graph is also misleading because it does not show spikes in deaths, as one can see here: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps (17th week of 2020 saw a sharp rise in deaths.)

Also see what the analysists are seeing (Sweden records highest death tally in 150 years in first half of 2020): https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/19/sweden-records-highest-death-tally-in-150-years-in-first-half-of-2020

With 742/million due to COVID (among the 90,000 who die eash year in the population of 10 million, many of whom are socially distance), Sweden is one of the world leaders in terrible COVID response, with a large percentage of the 7500 deaths that were avoidable via the usual precautions.

[–]noice 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're interesting but misleading.

7500 deaths will not appear appropriately in yearly statistics with around 90,000 deaths/year...

Fact check - False. 7500 deaths will inevitably be part of the total number of deaths for the year.

There are many factors that are the causes of death. For example, under-5 mortality decreased...

Fact check - Non-sequitur. Irrelevant.

Also people live longer now than they did...

Fact check - Non-sequitur. Irrelevant.

The graph is also misleading because it does not show spikes in deaths...

Fact check - Lol you didn't even look at the country-specific data. The data at the top appears to be all of Europe. Look at Sweden you buffoon. No excess. The map and the country-specific data below it.

Also see what analysts are seeing...

I acknowledge that there was a spike in deaths at the Spring of 2020. That happened in a large number of countries, including the US. What I'm arguing is that they handled it in a more sensible manner than many other places. Now they're probably close to natural herd immunity.

With 742/million due to COVID...

Fact check - how do you know that mandatory masks and economic shutdown would've prevented these deaths? From your own data on euromomo.eu, why does Sweden show no excess deaths while Italy, Switzerland, Slovenia, Austria, Greece have much higher excess?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I kindly replied to your argument. 7500 will not APPROPRIATELY appear in a 10 year study of an average of 90,000 deaths. My main point is that all of this is easy to Google. Perhaps do that rather than harrass people.