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[–]hennaojichan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

I'd like to try Kratom but it is also illegal in this country and the suppliers will not ship here. All the worry about addiction is ridiculous since even a person habituated to the most powerful pain killer known (and I do not mean codeine) will be up and moving around by the third or fourth day off it, a bit shakily probably.

I did not know that ketamine had such a lasting effect. It will be interesting to watch Oregon and see what effect, if any, legalization will have. I am betting that hard drug use will not increase since whatever you might want was available on the streets of Portland before legalization.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

There's a relative with about the same effects, Mitragyna Hirsuta. Not sure if that'd be legal for you. Good luck proving it's not kratom if you get caught with it though.

I am betting that hard drug use will not increase since whatever you want was available on the streets of Portland.

I don't know about that, there's got to be a % of people who'd buy drugs if they could find them or if they were legal who don't otherwise. I'd probably smoke a lot more weed if it were easier to get.

[–]hennaojichan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

We'll be getting reports from Oregon soon. If we can believe the reports, drug use in US high schools has been going down in recent years anyway. My prediction is based on the fact that the market is pretty much saturated, in the US anyway, and if you want it—whatever—it's out there and easy to get, especially in high schools. We will see. Ask your doc if a blocking shot is an option in your case. The shot does not go all the way into the middle of the spine where the cerebro-spinal fluid is because that is a somewhat dangerous injection. The expectation of pain is much worse than the actual pain of the needle going in and one shot lasts for two to three years. It still hurts if I walk a long way but I can ride my bicycle with no pain at all.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

, drug use in US high schools has been going down in recent years anyway.

My niece is in HS and I recently found out she was a pothead. Damn kids have better connections than I do. I think the technology is making it harder for kids to be found out.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

We were pretty clever too. I suspect the powers that be want to keep it available to certain populations too.

[–]hennaojichan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's what I've heard; everything is available in high school. Too bad I can't go within a mile of one. That is a weak joke as I have no interest in high school kids.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

They've got e-bikes too. Peddle/exercise what you can then coast the rest.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I might try one of those in a few years but while I'm still spry will stick to my trusty Cannondale. One reason is that a lot of housewives use those e-bikes, sometimes with a baby seat in the front and back. I've seen photos of Arnold the Terminator riding one in LA though.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I don't know what e-bike you're talking about but there's a HUUUUUUGE variety of electric bicycles and modifications. In fact there would be no shortage of modifications for your Cannondale.

You can improve this search to not be about Cannondale e-bikes, but more specific to your bike:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Cannondale+electric+bike+modifications

Meanwhile here are generic bike modifications adding various electric components:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=modify+bike+to+electric

As you see there's no end to the variety of sizes, propulsions, battery forms, switches, gadgets, and other modular systems. I customized a couple in Vancouver 11 years ago. It wouldn't have been done well or quickly without my uncle's electric knowledge, so either start strong or don't get customize crazy on your first try.

I would love to have one of those again.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

All right, I will look at the links but I feel the same about electric bikes as Mae West felt about marriage: Marriage is a wonderful institution but I'm not ready for an institution yet. Thanks.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My point is, you can keep your bike and just add a kit to it, from small to major. When you're ready. No deep commitment other than the expense and installation time.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I knew guys who would buy up as much of a substance as they could right before laws were passed to make it illegal. In this way they'd have a lifetime supply and could share or deal as they saw fit.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Like research chems? I was just talking about Foxy Meoxy (5 MeO DiPT). That stuff was awesome when it was legal. Like candy flipping but cheap. I wouldn't have minded stocking up on a lifetime supply.

Although when kratom looked like it was going to get scheduled here I was prepared to toss the kilos I had in the trash. The stuff was being treated like heroin pound for pound, which means a very long sentence for personal amounts.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly.

Find a place to bury it if it's that much.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'd like to try Kratom too. Just to see. Doubt I could do more if I wanted to due to budget.

Ketamine is known as the Wall Street lunch hour vacation because they do so much high energy cocaine they can take 45 minutes to an hour to chill the fuck down and be back operational without skipping a beat. To the K-hole and back. The long-term effects are only regarding your moods. That doesn't make you impervious to bad things in your life, but if you're bipolar or chronic depressive it can certainly help.

Big Pharma has no patent nor profit from it. It's safer than other anesthetics but not profitable, so they risk lives for their alternatives.

Obsessive use of ketamine will develop health problems. For some reason chronic use in only men will eat up your bladder. It will scar your bladder until all you can do is piss a teaspoon at a time, all the time, all day long. It's a problem and then you die. Those people have deeper addiction issues and/or a chemical trigger and are still willing to do that.

Ket from Mexico and Canada is usually A+.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's on my list but so far I've been in the right place at the wrong time.