People Don't Realize How Hard It Is To Speak The Truth

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[–]magnora7 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

"Deliberate ignorance" plays a much larger role in modern culture than I would've ever suspected when I was younger. Some people don't want to hear the truth about some things, because it means then they might have to think about it, which then means they might have to change their worldview and then adjust their patterns of behavior.

Some people are so addicted to their comfortable worn-in patterns of existing that the idea of trying something else scares them so much that they'll literally knowingly lie to themselves with thought-terminating cliches and known propaganda, just to keep the words from entering their conscious mind.

They're scared it might awaken something in them that might put them in conflict with the social hierarchy they've spent their lives trying to climb. Because they know, deep down, that "playing the game" is all a bunch of bullshit and a lot of it isn't morally right.

But if they never consider that possibility in the first place, then they're not a bad guy. Because then they're just acting out of ignorance rather than malice, which society deems more acceptable. So they just disallow themselves from consciously realizing anything that might make them the bad guy.

Ignorance is bliss, right?

[–]noice 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

It's interesting for me to think with hindsight about moments of cognitive dissonance where I saw a glimpse of truth and semi-consciously buried it instead of confronting it. I am an extremely curious person, and I'm generally unafraid to consider ideas which are 'out there', taboo, etc.

So it's surprising to me to have observed myself doing this, and it's kind of scary to extrapolate to the majority of the population and consider what kind of work lays ahead of me if I really want to affect some kind of ideological change within my lifetime.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also interesting is this:

You're told 20, 200, or 2000 times about something that is "standard" by any mainstream measure (ie. Holocaust, vaccines, climate change, 9/11, lone shooter events, COVID, etc).

Then you hear about something contrary that may even make more sense, but people are fallible, so you have to doubt it because you've already heard it solidly a zillion times. Further all the "authoritative" sites repeat the same thing, so researching deeper seems folly.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

One would think that somebody who creates a free speech site and knows all this would find a hosting solution that isn't resolutely against free speech? How do YOU reconcile two opposing halves of your own mind?

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

We have rules, the rules must be followed. This is not a free-for-all, and it never was.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

OK I get that. Now what about my question please?

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What's wrong with the hosting? I guess I missed something. I know about IP2, but not what triggered it, and I never cared much for them. Is there more?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. The hosting company, which I will not name at magnora7's request, has extremely far-left TOS and wholly supports "reverse" discrimination, while being adamant that they will never tolerate content that isn't politically correct in the most extreme way on their servers. As such, I feel that saidit's time as a free-speech-ish site is counting down to zero. As to WHEN the hosting company will see the free-speech-ish nature of this site, they will shut it down. At least, that's what their TOS indicate.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Early on I also made the mistake of calling this place a free speech site. It's not nor ever has been to my knowledge. I came here as a truther. I was not exposed to the alt-right, right, conservatives, etc much and what they considered "free speech". I've learned not to use that in conversation much anymore. To be more accurate, I came here for freedom of skepticism, though I firmly believe in free speech for all, though that no longer means standing on corners shouting. We've never had access to TV and we're not going to get access to Facebook, Google, Twitter, Reddit, etc without serious suppression and/or censorship. This is the modern world.

We may need to federate and/or decentralize wider somehow.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

No one wants to be the bad guy or on the bad team. If everyone actually knew that the ENTIRE ruling class and everything they do is against us there would be legit chaos. We all depend on a LOT of hierarchies networked together. It's an incredibly complex matrix, with one fundamental simple truth - ALL leaders are Machiavellian and psychopathic, from corporations to governments to religions. Connecting it all is a giant leap to make for people without the ability, time, energy, motivation, and morality to piece it all together.