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[–]TheJamesRocket[S] 13 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 4 fun -  (83 children)

[–]just_lesbian_things 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (80 children)

Nah mate, you're projecting. Most men can kill me with their bare hands. You're all the same to me; it doesn't matter what God you believe in.

[–]C3P0 11 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

you're projecting. You're all the same to me;

Respond to the argument, not the person.

[–]just_lesbian_things 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (7 children)

Respond to the argument

I did. If you want me to dumb it down for you, ask instead of throwing accusations.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

"you're all the same to me" is so silly to say. Are all lesbians the same?

[–]C3P0 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

It is exhibiting the book definition of misandry basically.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

yes.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

yes.

[–]C3P0 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

dumb it down for you

I'm going to take you up on that offer. Please explain in what ways, besides anatomically, males are different than females.

[–]just_lesbian_things 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm going to take you up on that offer.

Hey man, all you had to do was ask.

explain in what ways, besides anatomically, males are different than females.

Wrong read.

The argument that feminists stand up against "western males" and not "super scary Muslim males" due to the latter being scarier does not hold any water because both are scary.

Imagine you're trapped, alone on a bus with an armed serial killer looking for his next victim. Your sense of fear has already hit saturation. Whether the serial killer spends his free time praying in a church or a mosque or masturbating in his mother's basement is of little importance to you.

Western men who are afraid of the scary brown guys project that fear onto other people. They think, I'm scared of these brown guys, so you must be scared too. But the truth of the matter is that, there's not a whole lot of difference between one and the other for me as far as fear is concerned. They're both violent, they've both murdered women, it takes the same amount of courage for me to stand up to either. So no, it's not a matter of one being more terrifying than the other for me; that's a projection of someone else's fear and insecurities.

[–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The argument that feminists stand up against "western males" and not "super scary Muslim males" due to the latter being scarier does not hold any water because both are scary.

I agree with that at least. The part about western men and muslims both being violent is not realistic.

Have a great day.

[–]Chipit 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (66 children)

"If patriarchy were a real thing in our culture, if misogyny were a real thing, if men hated women and wanted them chained in basements we would be chained in basements. In actual fact, Western men are the most indulgent, permissive, tolerant men you will find anywhere on the planet, and in the face of real misogyny, whining feminists end up looking like petulant toddlers tossing expensive toys out of their designer prams complaining they are oppressed."

[–]just_lesbian_things 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (65 children)

Lol most women are chained. Chivalry is a lie men tell to make themselves feel good and women tell to make themselves feel safe. When men don't get what they feel entitled to, they will beat and murder until they get their way, starting with the nearest women.

[–]Chipit 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

Seriously? In our Western world, in this day and age? You're going to seriously push the line that most women are chained? WTF?

You people really do live in Bizarro World. It's what comes from living in a bubble where you can censor anyone who disagrees. Saidit has to be a shock to the system.

Chivalry is a lie

It never existed, and even as an ideal the existence of gentlemen was predicated upon the existence of ladies. White Knights were under no obligation to treat vulgar women in a chivalric manner.

When men don't get what they feel entitled to, they will beat and murder until they get their way, starting with the nearest women.

Wow. Just...wow. How closed minded you are. You must be very well educated. I would like to speak to the manager of your brain, she's not doing a very good job at all.

[–]just_lesbian_things 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (7 children)

It's what comes from living in a bubble where you can censor anyone who disagrees. Saidit has to be a shock to the system.

I was a channer before joining Reddit, believe it or not. Not everyone who disagrees with you is an American liberal. Stay smooth brained.

even as an ideal the existence of gentlemen was predicated upon the existence of ladies.

Precisely. It was a method of control, an excuse for men to act out violently when women didn't behave the way they want while still maintaining the illusion that they were "nice guys" to themselves.

I would like to speak to the manager of your brain, she's not doing a very good job at all

You're speaking to her. Clutch those pearls all you want, baby, but it's true. Statistically speaking, women are far more likely to be assaulted by a man they knew personally. Moreover, men who "wouldn't hit a girl" are most likely to make an exception for women they know. All evidence points towards greater danger faced by women who are in close proximity to men. I pity heterosexual women.

[–]Chipit 10 insightful - 5 fun10 insightful - 4 fun11 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

I'm sorry your life is like this. I hope it gets better.

[–]BrownScholarship 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

It’s okay if you can’t accept truth.

[–]Happy_face_doomer 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–]boeing737 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's not okay to be brown

[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

I pity heterosexual women.

Lol, you're flaming men because you're mad, women pick us over you.

If you like stats so much, you should look up partnership violence between lesbians LOL.

[–]just_lesbian_things 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

you're flaming men because you're mad, women pick us over you.

You're projecting, my guy. Being angry over women having choices is a man thing. I don't feel entitled to women the way you do; I wasn't socialized for it.

you should look up partnership violence between lesbians LOL.

If they only count for instances of abuse carried out by lesbians, it's lower than het relationships.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If they only count for instances of abuse carried out by lesbians, it's lower than het relationships.

Contrary to what most people believe, this is actually false.

[–]CheesyPeas 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Radical feminists out in the wild. You are a hoot hunny bunny.

This is manufactured nonsense and you know it. 'Most women are chained' [CITATION NEEDED].

I will wait. A long time. As you will not be able to provide a single piece of evidence to this statement.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

I've been left by a couple of women I've really loved, they cheated on me too , and I've never beaten or raped anyone. Quit generalizing, or people will start doing that towards lesbians. Do you want that?

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Quit generalizing, or people will start doing that towards lesbians

Threats don't work if the thing you're threatening has already happened and continue to happen. If you said a terrible viral outbreak will result in a global pandemic, you'd be about 9 months too late. In this case, you're off by several centuries.

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (12 children)

It's not a threat, it's a fact. If you generalize people, they tend to generalize you. There's no benefit in that, but you don't seem to care. Been burned too many times, now you throw the baby out with the bathwater. You ignored the other part of my comment,l. You probably think I'm lying, like all men must do since we are all evil.

Oh, you believe in the plandemic? I see now.

[–]just_lesbian_things 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

If you generalize people, they tend to generalize you.

So stop generalizing lesbians. Do you even know anything about lesbians? Actually, don't answer that. I don't want to understand the full extent of your stupidity.

Oh, you believe in the plandemic

Lol, when you get sick, please don't go to the hospital. I have friends who work there and you don't deserve treatment.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

You are a rude person. I may think trans people are wrong with their morals, yet I think they deserve medical treatment. You have a super life-negating philosophy, and it seems to be making you really angry at people. Listen, I haven't worn a mask this entire time, I live in an international city, I see my friends all the time, I enter businesses all the time. I've never once gotten sick with anything besides strep throat. You and the media seems to have this view that if you don't wear a mask you'll get sick and get others sick. Guess what? No one around me has gotten sick, and no one I know who goes without a mask has either. You are literally living under fear, even your views on men are fearful. You group us all together because large portions of us are messed up. Guess what? Women are messed up too. Ive been fucked with psychologically by women for no other reason than because they are fearful of confronting men, so they try to subvert them instead. Instead of becoming sexist against women, I realized that men and women have inherent problems in their natures. It's something we ALL have within us, this ability to be pieces of shit to each other, something we can ALL FIX. I never once generalized about lesbians. Never once. Do I know anything about lesbians? All I care to know is that they've been persecuted unrighteously, and still are in most places, and that they like the more attractive sex. I don't need to know much more, but I'd be glad to learn more if you'd like to chill out and quit being so hateful and fearful. Its damaging to your psyche and your body.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Unfortunately feminism manufactures women like this. It's a tragedy. Just imagine how many of them could have had happy lives had they not been exposed to this toxic thought.

[–]just_lesbian_things 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I may think trans people are wrong with their morals, yet I think they deserve medical treatment.

Likewise. The disagreement is hinged on the fact that I don't think I, someone who is neither paid nor trained to administer therapy, should be involved in their treatment. While I'm generally happy to accommodate in things like not using fireworks for the sake of people with PTSD, I don't agree with the entitlement displayed by the trans community with regards to the extent of control they can reasonably exert over other people. Long story short, I don't think I should have to pretend that a man is a woman just because he would feel bad otherwise.

No one around me has gotten sick, and no one I know who goes without a mask has either.

Next up you can explain to us how Bielefeld, Germany doesn't exist because you've never been there and you've never known anyone from there.

group us all together because large portions of us are messed up.

Nah, I group you together because you all need to learn that you're a class. You're a group. A demographic. You've been socialized to believe that you're all special snowflakes, unique individuals when you're not. Your ignorance, your fear, and your aggressive reactions are not one of a kind. It hurts your feelings of uniqueness and individualism when I point it out, because you've been taught that you're special all your life, but it must be done. Men need to learn to take collective responsibility. It's a bitter pill to swallow.

[–]jet199 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (21 children)

Most women in the West aren't chained.

This nonsense is similar to Brits saying they live in a police state because some people get arrested. It's just embarrassing. And it's completely insulting to people who face real oppression.

Feminists need to live in reality or we don't help anyone.

[–]just_lesbian_things 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

Brits saying they live in a police state because some people get arrested. It's just embarrassing. And it's completely insulting to people who face real oppression.

Yea, and you're not fat because there's this guy on my 600lb life who's 50lb heavier than you.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

I don't know what this fool meant. The industrialized societies of the west are extremely oppressive, and its broken so so so many beautiful cultures and people groups. He seems to be living in more of a fantasy than you, just_lesbian

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

The industrialized societies of the west are extremely oppressive

How do you live in a fantasy world like this? Live in a Muslim country for actual oppression. Jesus.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

You don't seem to realize the industrial west is simply a glass house. You can point at how nice it is, but it literally destroyed my people. It literally raped my country, gobbled up its beauty, and spat it back out as an assimilated factory-field. It wants to do this EVERYWHERE. FUCK YOU, CHIPIT.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

Pff. As if you lived in some kind of Utopia before the West existed. What would you do when you got sick? Go to a witch doctor? How about your LGBT youth? Equally treated, right? And income equality? I bet you had a strong middle class that led to democracy.

Hey, how about that democracy, right? I'm sure you had that...wait, no.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Where do you see that happening? This is some of the most insane rambling I have ever heard. It is completely removed from the reality I see.

White knighting is rampant. That rapes happen does not change that. Abuse of women by some men does not erase chivalry by others.

The ultimate irony is that people like you refuse to acknowledge racial disparities in violence against women because "muh racism" but then turn around and generalize that shit to all men. I'm sorry, but that is fucking retarded. Then you want to hold western men accountable for the crimes and behaviors of men in 3rd world countries. That is racist, sexist, and insane.

[–]just_lesbian_things 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Chivalry is not the opposite of sexism, chivalry is a part of sexism.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Then sexism is a good thing. Or you are a complete idiot. One of those.

[–]just_lesbian_things 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

False dichotomy

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yeah, well this is one of those fallacies that is really hard to explain for me because I don't think there is a word or description of it. It's this thing leftists do with changing the meanings of words on the fly to construct illogical arguments. It is mostly done with the word racist. If you are white you can be labeled a racist for literally anything at all because liberals use the most vague and all encompassing definition to label you one, going so far as to say white people are born racist.

But then when they talk about why racism is bad they use a completely different definition. They say racist look down on other races. They say racists hate, hold down, mistreat, attack, subvert, insult, etc etc etc. But none of those things were required to label a white person racist. You got labeled a racist for simply acknowledging a known fact that could be seen as unfavorable to minorities, and once you are labeled you are guilty of all the other things racist can mean.

If this is the way you actually think then you must be an complete idiot.

If this is not the way you think than you have to admit that if Chivalry is part of sexism then all the nasty things we were taught about sexism must be wrong. That the definition that 99.9% of people who hear sexism immediately think of is wrong. That everyone is wrong except you, and whatever retarded liberal arts "professor" who brainwashed you with pseudo intelectual arguments.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

When men don't get what they feel entitled to, they will beat and murder until they get their way, starting with the nearest women.

True.
We do be like that.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

Boo.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

You think women are better?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Some women are better than some men, mostly because they worked at it. Some men are better than some women, for the same reason. Now, better is subjective, but still. There is a hierarchy in nature, but it's not always men on top. It depends on the person.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Agree but both men and women have absolutely horrific natures if put to the test.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is still a generalization, but yeah, I agree. The shared traits across the board are not positive, life-affirming traits. They are negative traits. Like, men who think women exist to serve them, or women who think all men will beat them. It's just silly to think this way when both sides have evil, have good, have waste, and have potential. It's just silly.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Just because most men can kill you does not mean that all men are equally likely to kill you. Literally anyone can kill anyone else, weapons exist. The fact is that Muslims are more violent than Christians, and there is a huge discrepancy between how the two groups are treated by the left. Your dismissal of that doesn't make any sense.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

What if I believe in no God? You like to generalize, eh?

[–]Ergu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah but not getting a cake and being thrown from a rooftop can't be there same to you...

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

and straight white men in the military are only ones keeping muslims from coming here and killing them all

[–]yishengqingwa666 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Straight? LOL, sure.