This is it, Charlie Brown, if you vote one more time there will be real change!

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    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

    I can't believe you think Trump isn't a card-holding member of GovCorp (Business Party)

    Like I'm baffled by this. You don't get into federal office AND stay there unless you play the same game.

    [–]Extract 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    It's pretty trivial to see he isn't, though.

    All you need to do is glance at how the establishment's media went rabid the moment it became clear he was serius about running for president, and continued becoming even more clearly biased ever since (a good talk about it from just yesterday).

    You don't get into federal office AND stay there unless you play the same game

    Oh, sure, Trump is a businessman who can play the same game. He's just not part of the same sub-section of the club, which happened to also be running the USA (and many other western countries) straight into the ground - and also building very dystopian fascist regimes, many of which are clearly evident to anybody with even half a braincell who is familiar with the laws in some states (CA being the prime example) and some European countries (Germany / UK / Sweden come to mind here).

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Once again, you don't stay in office unless you are a member of their team. That's the fucking playbook, dude. You are falling for psychological warfare. My dad does this every time we talk "oh, but the media hates him! Look at what he does here, and there, and here again. He isn't bad, he's just playing dirty!" I don't buy into that whole "sub-section of the cabal" BS. There is the Cabal, and they manipulate the less powerful demographics against each other, then we pick sides. The problem is that both sides are fucking bought out. Trump isn't an outsider, I've seen way too many pictures of him cozying up to evil fucks and pedos. You don't take pictures with criminals with a smile on your face. No good person I've ever met does that.

    You've been jipped.

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      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Strategically smart if you want to trick a bunch of citizens into thinking you're on their side.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      How can you not?

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      It's incredibly obvious to anyone who has even glanced at history or Machiavellian political strategy that Trump is a member of the Cabal. Its simple. Did he get killed in the first two years? No? Then he is a member, or at least, he has been heavily compromised. I really am boggled by people who think Trump is going to drain the swamp. It's laughable.

      [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Exactly!

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        [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Naw. I'm not saying Trump isn't playing the game well, but it's the corporatocracy and their media that are ALLOWING him to. It's all a psyop.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Lies. You get a bullet to the head if you are actually an outsider who wants to "drain the swamp". He's one of them. If he wasn't, then he would've gone after them with executive powers right away. He would've galvanized public support by unleashing a massive investigation into the Federal reserve, the DoD, the CIA, the FBI, and the DNC/RNC. He would've had enough evidence in two months if he were legitimate. Instead, he follows the character the media has made him out to be, and the rest of you just gobble it up.

        [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

        Two wings of the warhawk big business party, and you're not invited.

        The USA has the absolute LEAST number of parties to still be jokingly called a democracy. Just one less and it's like China (who also have rigged elections).

        Your New Normal World Order is here. OBEY!

        /s/Voting_IsARiggedJoke

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          [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

          Yes, Canada, Europe, and many other places have far more than 2 parties. You're correct that it's completely engineered for a dumbed down society but there's nothing natural about it, unless you count corruption as natural.

          This is just one example of over 40 ways to rig the election - all of which they are actively working on:

          If having 15 voting stations active in a wealthy White neighbourhood and 3 voting stations, sometimes broken, in an equal sized poor Black neighbourhood, wouldn't you call that rigged? Take out the colours if that's an issue for you. The entire matrix is of rigged systems that ONLY favour the ruling class.

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            [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

            There is zero excuse for continuing with the extant system. They could have brought more and more democracy to the people and actually given them a voice. The days of the Pony Express are long over. Since then the telegraph, telephone, radio, television, and now computers are much faster at conveying information back and forth. Everyone has been trapped in their ritual that they don't realize how it's being used against them.

            There was no difference in the 1960s. The ruling class got their way and the poor suffered. It just seemed like a golden era after the 2 world wars prior and the the middle class wealth ahead of the rest of the oppressed world seemed luxurious by comparison. I know few who would give up all the modern conveniences of today to return to a life of the 60s.

            Right now China is booming much like the USA was in the 60s. Eventually the ruling class will squash them too when the Singularity makes them all obsolete.

            Changing gerrymandering to fix voting to fix gerrymandering to fix the chicken and the egg which comes first problem.

            "If voting were effective they'd make it illegal."

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              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

              We aren't staying get rid of voting. We are saying rewrite the fucking system. You think the West is a democracy? You are wrong. It's a flipper version of fascism, where the government is OWNED by corporations. This isn't a democracy, especially not if every career politician becomes a lobbyist when they leave office. There's so many conflicts of interest that it's truly silly to call the west a democracy. There is way way way too much fuckery going on here for it to be called a fair legal system. The only authority it has at this point is the threat of force (and then carrying out those threats)

              [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              Brilliantly stated.

              [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              " But that doesn't mean that simply to vote every couple years fixes everything. "

              Truth.

              [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

              What's the alternative? The National Justice Party?

              [–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

              The ancient greeks didn't believe elections were particularly democratic because the rich could always by the most publicity, this was even true thousands of years ago. They thought picking representatives at random, like we do with jury service, was a more democratic option.

              https://www.theguardian.com/education/2012/apr/16/improbable-research-politicians-random-selection

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                [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

                It's a little late but I wish them all the luck!

                It's nice to see a little hope. Maybe next time around they'll be even better organized.

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                  [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  I really hope they can make a dent. You can't do that if folks don't know about you and as long as most of the sheeple remain under their spell.

                  I agree. They rig it every which way to make it impossible for alternatives to exist much less have a chance.

                  Pessimism and optimism can both be problematic. Realism is required.

                  Prepare for the worst and hope and make for the best.

                  [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  Why do you jump to such extremes?

                  [–]fred_red_beans 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  Lucy's a jerk, but I hate Charlie Brown. Always a loser, always a victim. Never liked that comic, but this sums up our democracy.

                  [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  haha yaaaaaaaaaa

                  vote with Bitcoin instead to make change

                  [–]SaidOverRed 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  Yes the damage has been done. So grab the football and run with it.

                  [–]ctvzbuxr 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  If the last election has shown me anything, it's that change will never come from politics. Trump was the perfect candidate, not because I agreed with everything he said, but becaue he genuinely seemed like an outsider who believed in the things he was saying and talked about things no one else would talk about. And what did we get? A few (insignificant) tax cuts, that's it. Mass immigration continues, welfare continues, gun bans are getting crazier, swamp has not been drained. No wars have been ended, the FED's power has not been limited, tech censorship is getting worse and worse. Either he doesn't want to do it, or he can't. Either way, change will not come from the government. The idea that you can infiltrate the mafia to change the mafia is insane. It remains insane.

                  [–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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                  [–]NorfolkTerrier 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  I've come to think that not voting can be a meaningful choice. I don't get the culture of shaming people for it.

                  [–]JeanValjean 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

                  The catch is you have to vote D or R, otherwise your vote doesn't count, and I swear I won't pull the football out of the way at the last moment!

                  [–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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                  [–]WarmPotato 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                  RIP