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[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't know. Women certainly aren't oppressed in the western world, but you can point to a lot of countries (cough coughIslamcough cough) where women are treated as second class citizens and expected to be subservient to men.

I think you can also say that even in countries where they aren't being oppressed, there is a good argument for special sex-based protections, such as women's sports, bathrooms and locker rooms.

Also since GC feminists are claiming modern trans activists are trying to undermine their rights, and those activists actually are, they do have a point.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

These "GC" feminists are the world's least sympathetic victims. They are complete hostile assholes. They were all in favor of censorship, as long as they got to censor others. Now that the Frankenstein's monster they created turned on them, they learned nothing from it. The ones on Saidit immediately created new echo chambers by banning anyone who disagreed with them.

Fuck feminists of all kinds. They're full of hate in their hearts.

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Setting your own standards inside your own community isn't the same kind of censorship. If a church doesn't let an atheist give a talk, is that a bad thing?

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Always excusing censorship. When we do it it's OK, when anyone else does it to us it's a hate crime. We've seen this so many times, most recently with the influx of feminists banned from reddit.

A better question is, if you had the power, would you force churches to allow atheists to speak? Why or why not?

[–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

A better question is, if you had the power, would you force churches to allow atheists to speak? Why or why not?

This is pretty straightforward. Part of the principle of free speech is the right to listen, and the right not to listen. You are free to associate with (and listen to) whoever you like. A church that doesn't host an atheist isn't "censoring" anyone in any meaningful sense, they're just exercising their right not to listen. The atheist is still free to speak his mind to whoever will listen.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You didn't answer the question. If you had the power, would you force the church to allow atheists to speak?

If you wouldn't, why not? Churches are problematic. They perpetrate systemic oppression, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, heteronormativity, cisnormativity, transphobia, and the status quo. If you don't act to dismantle things like this, then you are problematic.