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[–]Chipit 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

Oh, that was just a salient excerpt. You should read the whole essay: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/07/woke-wont-debate-you-heres-why/

It's fantastic. It's written by James Lindsay, a name you'll remember from the "grievance studies" hoax. You know, where he took a chapter of Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler, replaced all references to Jews with men, and got it published in a feminist scientific journal? And the editor wrote back saying, "Could you spice this up a bit? It's not strong enough."

He actually read all of the leftist literature - critical theory, feminist radicalism, queer theory, neo-Marxism, the Frankfurt School and so on - and boiled it down. The left doesn't debate, and it can't. Arriving at truth through debate is an Enlightenment value, Enlightenment values are racist and resulted in slavery and genocide, therefore debating only reinforces inequality. "Woke" ideology is actually an internally sound idea system that has as its goal the complete destruction of Enlightenment thought.

And memes like this are a perfect example, as they present no arguments and need none. That they are right, by their own terms, is all that matters.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

i actually agree with a lot of this, though i don't think it's impossible for leftists to debate. but this is just a stupid meme dude, you're taking it too literally

[–]Dragonerne 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

They can't debate which is why they censor. The pyramid of debate is literally anti-leftism.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

Try debating the old-Left progressives rather than the insane SJW Corporate BLM Dems. They still exist even if their anti-war movements and everything else has be infiltrated and subverted.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yes but they are wrong on fundamental things such as race

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Proof? Wrong how?

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

The old left doesn't believe in race anymore than the new one does. Also if you're still old-left and didn't understand that your "tolerance" was exploited by a subversive intolerant movement then how are you worth debating? (not you you, general you)

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I don't buy what your selling, not because I'm not interested, but because it's not clear. I could go on with some speculative countering but that would be masturbatory. Explain clearly please.

[–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

The old left thinks race is pseudoscience.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

That's a mighty wide brush you're painting with and I don't think that's entirely true, though I suspect parts of the old-Left believe that, depending on how you define "race".

[–]Chipit 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Well, by debating, they're reinforcing oppression. I don't see why they would.