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[–]Comatoast 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Right? Same. Or knocked up at the tender age of around 15 and waiting to mentally fuck up 8 kids.

No one ever takes working class women into consideration with these arguments.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Yes. These women were married with kids, too. The whole “women never worked in the olden days” line is a total lie.

[–]Comatoast 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It's even shittier to think that they had to contribute to a system financially that they weren't even allowed to vote in.

If I can't vote, I'm certainly not going to fucking work to pay taxes.

[–]72ndGender 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Even today, women don't actually pay taxes. They take out more than they put it. They're a net drain on the tax system.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Ok, not every woman is working or poverty level or squatting out on government cheese. That was an extremely stupid comment and you should feel ashamed.

[–]72ndGender 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

net drain on the system

Don't be a fucking retard. You know the context here was women as a group, not "every woman." You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to slip in such a disingenuous argument so that you can try to insult me.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's too generalized a term though, blanket statements and all. And I hate that seeking temporary aid is seen as something bad. Men should have accesses to the same safety nets, especially if they're responsible for children (and in the cases of single fathers, those benefits are there that I'm awareof--if you know of something different please inform me). It's not something that anyone should remain on for a lengthy period of time though, and should incentivized to become independent of.

[–]72ndGender 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, and I'm not against social safety nets. Like you, I just don't want them to be a lifetime support system. I don't even remember why I made a comment about net tax contribution, but I recognize that generalized statements don't help in an argument. Unless the argument is an aggregate analysis of groups' contribution to taxes...