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[–]dark_devil_dd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Seems like countries where totalitarian regimes were more recent have more distrust.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think that's an accurate analysis. The people who don't trust the police, have had recent reasons not to trust the police. And those who do trust the police, have had trusting the police generally work out.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

American's overall trust the po-lice; so much so, they fail at realizing any interaction with them, can be used against you in court.

More people should realize this, and pay attention to the many video warnings posted to youtube by the ACLU.

I look at po-lice like a loaded gun, used with measure, and realization that it's not play time.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I look at it like they are a wild animal. I respect them, keep my distance, and don't look at them. And I don't mess with them or even talk to them. It's too dangerous. We have subs like /s/policemisconduct to track things like this. Police in the US kill about 1200 people a year, and only 65 or so die in the line of duty. If it were a war, they'd call it a massacre.

And 1% of the US, over 3 million people, are locked in concrete cages right now. And another 1% are on probation from just having gotten out. This is record in both raw numbers, and per capita, in all of world history.

I don't know how anyone can look at the stats and think this is normal or acceptable. Especially when compared to other developed countries. The US is much closer to Brazil than western Europe when it comes to police murdering people.

Then the whole "thin blue line" thing, and now they have their own version of the American flag they put on their cars... not to mention all the militarization with all the military equipment they're gifted (with stipulations it must be used in 6 months or returned)... it's an absolute mess.

I wonder if it's just going to keep getting worse until the police are federalized, like happened in mexico a year ago.

A lot of people see it and there's been some reaction to it, but it's been diverted in to this "black lives matter" racial divide and conquer narrative, when 50% of people murdered by police are white, so it's really something that affects all Americans of every race. But by portraying it as an issue that only affects blacks, they've made blacks hate whites more, and whites feel ignored and in turn feel anger toward the system that is ignoring them. It's this whole divide and conquer thing while the actual problem goes unresolved, and continues to fester and get worse.

This shit really bothers me, but I don't know what to do other than open places like saidit where people can at least say the truth and communicate without swimming in propaganda. It's like a forest fire, it just perhaps has to burn itself out. I guess all I can really do is walk away, but that's what everyone is doing. And everyone who didn't is locked in a concrete cage somewhere.

Seems like leaving the US while the fire burns brightest might be a good idea, but who knows. There will be some place along this police state slippery-slope that I will eventually have to get off this crazy ride and go to a sane country. But if you wait too long you get too many people trying to do this all at once, and countries won't take more immigrants once it hits critical mass (similar as to happened in WW2) so it is possible to end up being stranded with no way to leave. It's important to make moves before things get to this state of existence.

Maybe it's also possible to just hide out somewhere like Idaho where no one gives a fuck too. There were plenty of places in the US during the 1860s civil war where you could be away from any actual danger or shortages.

I hate that I'm put in a position as an American where I even have to consider things like this though. Just makes me shake my head. The American empire is collapsing and I'm not sure I want to be around while the worst of it happens. It'd be like living in Russia in 1990 as the USSR collapsed, but worse because the American empire is so much more global so the fall will be so much farther. Not fun. Maybe it'll be like Britians 1919 empire collapse as well, and result in many proxy wars from the resulting power vacuum created by the empire implosion.

Sorry didn't mean to write so much... this topic really hits a nerve for me. These are the dirty gears that run the empire. When we can't trust the police at all, and they're a danger, that's a sign the empire is becoming more authoritarian.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wonder if it's just going to keep getting worse until the police are federalized, like happened in mexico a year ago.

A lot of people see it and there's been some reaction to it, but it's been diverted in to this "black lives matter" racial divide and conquer narrative, when 50% of people murdered by police are white, so it's really something that affects all Americans of every race. But by portraying it as an issue that only affects blacks, they've made blacks hate whites more, and whites feel ignored and in turn feel anger toward the system that is ignoring them. It's this whole divide and conquer thing while the actual problem goes unresolved, and continues to fester and get worse.

This shit really bothers me, but I don't know what to do other than open places like saidit where people can at least say the truth and communicate without swimming in propaganda. It's like a forest fire, it just perhaps has to burn itself out. I guess all I can really do is walk away, but that's what everyone is doing. And everyone who didn't is locked in a concrete cage somewhere.

Seems like leaving the US while the fire burns brightest might be a good idea, but who knows. There will be some place along this police state slippery-slope that I will eventually have to get off this crazy ride and go to a sane country. But if you wait too long you get too many people trying to do this all at once, and countries won't take more immigrants once it hits critical mass (similar as to happened in WW2) so it is possible to end up being stranded with no way to leave. It's important to make moves before things get to this state of existence.

Maybe it's also possible to just hide out somewhere like Idaho where no one gives a fuck too.

You didn't write too long, it was too the point for the overall picture; unfortunately, today, you've got to be very clear, or it's misconstrued, or even due to the overall tensions, misinterpreted.

On the issue of nationalized po-lice; I agree, we're just about there. They all dress militarized now, and also, for their protection, they get special concealed carry permit privileges via new legislation passed by Congress; it truly is a step towards a unified national po-lice by way of privilege above the rest of the serfs.

As far as leaving the US, it can be done, I've lived extensively outside the US, on my own, BUT, most foreigners, hate Americans. It can be worked out, and lived around, but it takes a degree of 'grey man'....

Likewise, and I don't know if you saw my IP, but I spend a great deal of my time in the Inland Northwest, and Idaho, I've got property in the mountains. What I discovered are that there are three types that live rural: the retirees, the working stiff, and also the misfits of society that couldn't handle being around other people.

The problem in my humble opinion is the last group. These are your meth heads, and dregs. They are truly dangerous, deceptive, and common; usually by way of screwing people, can talk a 'doable' game.

All in all at the end of the day, not wearing the proverbial 'grey hat', but the 'grey man' is a superior way to handle all said groups efficiently, as well as the po-lice.... I mean the leo's I've talked with lately seem to have their spidey senses up in regards to all the 'oddities' we're experiencing.

We live in interesting, and strange times; times that I think will put many feet to fire; fight, or flight.