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[–]zyxzevn 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

Also "racists"

Looks like invaders are working to bring down the forum (2020 related?).

Soon we will have a report in the American media requiring the banning of Saidit.

Similar happened on voat, but they did not care about the racist part. So now they have many racist stuff. (Note: criticizing Israel or Saudi Arabia is not racist).

Magnora should appoint some trusted moderators to stop invasions like this.

[–]magnora7 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Having moderators won't stop this because they'll just post in subs where the moderators are inactive.

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think it will stop the big wave. But I agree that other measures are necessary too.

For website administrator, it would be nice to correlate different accounts with time and place (and IP).

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

We have all that info and are using it

[–]WanderForUmm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not sure if you have are already tracking this, but i assume you have a way of seeing who is upvoting troll posts, and correlating those?

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah we do have a way. We ended up banning about a dozen accounts from this guy, I haven't checked but I'm fairly certain he was upvoting himself. But if it became a deeper problem, that would be a great thing to check next.

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Great!
Some websites have limits for new accounts or rarely used accounts.
Like amount of posts, and amount of votes.

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We actually have that already. He was hitting that limit, then making a new account and posting again.

[–]Jakio 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I agree with you, broadly. But, the challenge is how to stop invasions like this without going down the slippery slope of censorship. I'm not sure I have a good answer, personally.

Honestly, part of the strategy behind this trolling might be to get mangora7 to crack down hard. Who knows.

[–]magnora7 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Honestly, part of the strategy behind this trolling might be to get mangora7 to crack down hard. Who knows.

Of course it is. They want to turn this place in to either a swamp of terrible content, or a house of censorship, and I refuse to do either.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This.

Edit: +3

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    [–]Jakio 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    But that's the catch- some of the posts didn't advocate anything. Just saying a kid is hot is gross. That's why people do it- it's right on the line, and forces the community to react strongly.

    edit: the more I think about it, the plan is to get Mangora to freak out and lock things down.

    [–]WanderForUmm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    One of the keys to the strategy they used successfully to destroy voat was to scare off new users. Whenever there was a major subreddit banning on reddit, a bunch of fake racist/pedo/nazi whatever accounts that had barely posted for months fired up and went into overdrive. My suggestion, unpleasant as it may be, is to moderate the front page to some degree, and try and cultivate a TRUSTED base of mods for major communities to do the garbage work to stop the trolls in them. In my opinion, trying to cultivate a culture and a sufficiently large userbase that their shit is kept off the frontpage would, if nothing else, give a good idea of how large an org they have, if they scale up their efforts with the site's userbase.

    On that last point, last I checked, one of the only voat communities that didn't get destroyed by the racist and pedo trolls was FatPeopleHate. They managed to keep the trolld mostly out despite whatever else was going on by having relatively heavy censorship of things unrelated to hating fat people, and a policy that required moderator appeals to be accompanied by a timestamped picture to prove that they weren't fat. I'm no fan of FPH, or of censorship, but it's interesting to see that strange policy seemed to keep the trolls out, almost inadvertantly.

    [–]zyxzevn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    "they" could be:
    - left wing "activists"
    - Israeli internet army
    - US or UK military group.
    - correct the record - like company

    [–]Skuly 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Iv seen five new accounts started in a few hours of each other so i think its just one guy.

    [–]zyxzevn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah. Some troll-activist.
    Could be just as dumb as CNN.

    [–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's almost certainly just one guy, based on what I'm seeing

    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Or even China, because we're talking about the Hong Kong situation a lot right now, and China is known for censorship

    Or could just be some guy who was bored and decided that would be funny

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    It must have been... the Chinese!!!

    <One guy>

    ;-)

    /s

    [–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Could be one hyper-nationalistic Chinese guy who's not associated with the government. There's really no way at all of telling who it was or why they did it though. Probably just some guy messing around to feel powerful, tbh

    [–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yea, I'm just messing. ;-)

    Could be anyone?

    JC is notably absent?

    He is a Chinese national. Could be him?!

    JK JC.

    [–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    YOU forgot the ADL, the organization that boasts about working with Google, and hundreds of other Tech companies to censor.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    "they" could be (((them))).

    Just kidding, probably just a couple of bored middle schoolers.