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[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Kind of, you see it as idealism, but I see what you say as defeatism. Things won't ever be perfect, but that doesn't mean we're helpless either. There's lots of shades of gray in between where progress can be made.

Meh, I was just being kind, and attempting to participate. I don't see anything I said as being 'defeatism', but interesting you'd see it like that.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I enjoy the conversation and your contributions. Thank you.

I agree some problems are too big to solve in one lifetime, regardless of the level of dedication. However that just means that the task then becomes finding problems that are small enough to be actually solved. Not to just go "eh why bother" which I see as defeatism, you know what I mean?

Not trying to argue, I think it's just an interesting point because I've had these very same thoughts before.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree some problems are too big to solve in one lifetime, regardless of the level of dedication. However that just means that the task then becomes finding problems that are small enough to be actually solved. Not to just go "eh why bother" which I see as defeatism, you know what I mean?

What one sees as a problem, often times is someone else's idea of a solution. What you see as up, another sees as down, or vice versa. The concept of 'all roads to hell are paved with good intentions', really is embodied in this light.

I offer advice here, or there, I used to do quite a bit more, but I realized other folks are on their own journeys; whether they realize that, or not; people will do what people will do.

Overall, I really liked what you wrote, it's good food for thought, and it's just like that other saying, 'you can lead a horse to water(suggestion), but you cannot make them drink(self-determination). What I wrote was apparently a failed attempt at outlining that sentiment; as it's necessary for a degree of sanity when the world keeps doing insane things.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hey well said, and I agree. However there are some scenarios that are just flat-out better than others, for nearly everyone. Like having food vs not having food. Having enough clothes. Covering the basics. Having a clear peaceful mind vs a chaotic one, and having a culture that helps make that easier. We can work towards making things better, but I agree there is a lot of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." going on in this world so we must act very carefully and thoughtfully. But I think over-reaching is just as bad as under-reaching, so to speak. It's all a delicate balance, and I don't blame anyone who is trying their best to do (or not do) whatever is necessary to improve things. But some improvements are genuinely better than others, it's not all smoke and mirrors. But finding those things is tough.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

well thought out, and put.

I'm reading an Indian guy from over 120 years ago. His view of the world overall then, is so close to what we're living now. I don't agree with everything he has to say, as some of it supports the idea of embracing the caste system(some ways it works, other ways I can see as limiting) oneself is born into, but overall, it's some good food for thought on how, and why to do xyz.

Haven't finished reading it all, but here: https://holybooks-lichtenbergpress.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/SWAMI-VIVEKANANDA-COMPLETE-WORKS-Vol-1.pdf

And for complete disclosure, I got the link from Les Visible; don't always agree with his thoughts, and then at times I do.

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the link, I appreciate it! I'm always looking for new reading material