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[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your kind words are much appreciated. I'm glad you've come to saidit, welcome! Please make yourself at home!

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am so glad you found value in it. I wish everyone could understand this message as you just have.

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[–]Bethenny 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is life-changing. Thank you.

Magnora should put me in charge, he's to big a wuss to run a site like this. by Assfuck in magnora7

[–]santaclaus 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

submitted 8 months ago by Assfuck

username checks out.

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[–]Marginotions 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Me, freshly beyond reddit, surprised this old post is still active. If saidit was like reddit, it would be archived.

Not sure if my comment is off topic, it's about 'double entendre' in which the original meaning has been apparently superseded by its opposite. My main gripe in this mode is "incredible". Not griping about confusion with Pixar animated video, but the very popular distorted meaning "favorably impressive", as in "this (item described) is so marvelous, you won't believe it!" This usage is very common in Epoch Times advertisements; seems to me this adjective is undesirable for application to a "controversial" news source.

An older version of this is just confusing, "sanction" because the Law senses (4, 5, meaning 'condamn') are the opposite of the "common senses" (LoL) (1..3), which make more sense due to the origin "sanctified" meaning blessed.

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[–]Handroid7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wise words.

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[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would say discipline is just well-guided attention. Thanks :)

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I like the phrase "predatory class". That's pretty accurate

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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Things could be perfect though if we can get the brain chip. When man becomes machine, nothing can stop us. We can live as immortals in a Utopian society of Fabian Socialist communitarianism. We will be like Gods. /s

Getting rid of the predatory creditor class would be a good start.

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[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ATTENTION and DISIPLINE. I believe the latter is just as important, if not more so. Good post.

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[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a good point.

From my understanding, "ignoring" is active. "Relaxing" is opposite of that.

This is why all people should understand more Wittgenstein. We often fail at language games.

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[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Never fake it.

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[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you, much appreciated

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[–]Entropick 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

holy fucking shit. i've read a few of these over the years but youre....its stunning how ahead of the times you were/are.

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. I learned the downvotes can mean you're exposing deep truths, but not necessarily. But you are definitely correct

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[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I love your posts. I noticed on reddit you got hammered with downvotes many times. Downvotes on speddit usually mean you're getting too close to the truth.

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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's only relevant because people decide to view it. Imagine if people were aware enough to seek truth and turnoff the Television.

I've always wondered why some people suddenly wake up and expose to themselves and others the lies and propganda in our daily lives, whether it be the obscenity of consumerism or the talking heads on the TV or noble lies perpetuated for eternity, there's always a minority that is aware to this deception. Then there are those who discover it, become aware but decide to deny it and lie to themselves and then there are those who will never wake up.

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[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ha thanks, glad to hear it. It means a lot. I wish there were more people doing journalism and research like this, to the point where the "mainstream media" wasn't even necessary or relevant anymore. That'd be the day

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Fantastic work man. You helped to "red pill" me back in the day. I remember reading lots of these posts.

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[–]zyxzevn 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good posts.
My top posts and remarks are almost all about funny stuff:
Here

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[–]Vigte 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"An eye for an eye makes the world blind."

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[–]magnora7[S] 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I posted this link of my top-ranked posts in saidit chat and I figured some other people might like to browse this too, if they like other things I've written. There's some really great information in those top posts! You will learn something interesting, I tried my best to guarantee that.

Name history of Magnora🌹🌸💐🌷🌺 by [deleted] in magnora7

[–]Tiwaking 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

magnora7 13 insightful - 10 fun - 9 months ago

magnora I made up with random syllables and I thought it sounded cool, and the 7 is because I've been banned from reddit 6 other times...

The real name history of Magnora7

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for the link, I appreciate it! I'm always looking for new reading material

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[–]Node 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That is a great point.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nope.

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[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well thought out, and put.

I'm reading an Indian guy from over 120 years ago. His view of the world overall then, is so close to what we're living now. I don't agree with everything he has to say, as some of it supports the idea of embracing the caste system(some ways it works, other ways I can see as limiting) oneself is born into, but overall, it's some good food for thought on how, and why to do xyz.

Haven't finished reading it all, but here: https://holybooks-lichtenbergpress.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/SWAMI-VIVEKANANDA-COMPLETE-WORKS-Vol-1.pdf

And for complete disclosure, I got the link from Les Visible; don't always agree with his thoughts, and then at times I do.

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey well said, and I agree. However there are some scenarios that are just flat-out better than others, for nearly everyone. Like having food vs not having food. Having enough clothes. Covering the basics. Having a clear peaceful mind vs a chaotic one, and having a culture that helps make that easier. We can work towards making things better, but I agree there is a lot of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions." going on in this world so we must act very carefully and thoughtfully. But I think over-reaching is just as bad as under-reaching, so to speak. It's all a delicate balance, and I don't blame anyone who is trying their best to do (or not do) whatever is necessary to improve things. But some improvements are genuinely better than others, it's not all smoke and mirrors. But finding those things is tough.

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[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree some problems are too big to solve in one lifetime, regardless of the level of dedication. However that just means that the task then becomes finding problems that are small enough to be actually solved. Not to just go "eh why bother" which I see as defeatism, you know what I mean?

What one sees as a problem, often times is someone else's idea of a solution. What you see as up, another sees as down, or vice versa. The concept of 'all roads to hell are paved with good intentions', really is embodied in this light.

I offer advice here, or there, I used to do quite a bit more, but I realized other folks are on their own journeys; whether they realize that, or not; people will do what people will do.

Overall, I really liked what you wrote, it's good food for thought, and it's just like that other saying, 'you can lead a horse to water(suggestion), but you cannot make them drink(self-determination). What I wrote was apparently a failed attempt at outlining that sentiment; as it's necessary for a degree of sanity when the world keeps doing insane things.

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I enjoy the conversation and your contributions. Thank you.

I agree some problems are too big to solve in one lifetime, regardless of the level of dedication. However that just means that the task then becomes finding problems that are small enough to be actually solved. Not to just go "eh why bother" which I see as defeatism, you know what I mean?

Not trying to argue, I think it's just an interesting point because I've had these very same thoughts before.

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[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kind of, you see it as idealism, but I see what you say as defeatism. Things won't ever be perfect, but that doesn't mean we're helpless either. There's lots of shades of gray in between where progress can be made.

Meh, I was just being kind, and attempting to participate. I don't see anything I said as being 'defeatism', but interesting you'd see it like that.

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Kind of, you see it as idealism, but I see what you say as defeatism. Things won't ever be perfect, but that doesn't mean we're helpless either. There's lots of shades of gray in between where progress can be made.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This snowjob shillery bullshit...

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

NPC sock puppets refuse to up-vote your comments? Are they waiting for you to come out of the incel closet?

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[–]Bullet_Storm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I remember watching a YouTube video which did a good job covering this topic a couple of years ago. It's a good thing to keep in mind.

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[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, onself cannot ignore the idiocracy, and craziness as you stated. To do so, maybe the indicator to have the NPC's point, and scream loudly so as to enunciate to the other NPC's that there's a 'thinker' around; you gotta know how to move in order to run silent.

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[–]HeyImSancho 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Welcome to being an individual idealist; it's good food for one's soul, and personal growth in co-creating. At some point though, you realize that the world's issues aren't able to be solved; it's akin to straitening curly cued tails of a dog, or pig.... Straighten it out the best you can, and it'll still curl back.

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[–]magnora7[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree, that's a subtle but useful point. But you also have to "fake it till you make it". First we have to stop spending time hating stuff that should be ignored. This is an active process at first. But later we eventually begin ignoring it automatically, without it having to be a forceful thing. But we have to practice first, and practice is often a forceful thing at first and then becomes more and more natural, be it with ignoring stuff or playing baseball. So I think what you talk about is a great end-goal, but there is the intermediary stage of actively practicing ignoring things you'd otherwise engage in, and I think you have to practice the middle stage to get to the end goal.

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[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good for you. Our time is valuable and we should treat it as such.

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[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, I'd say what u/magnora7 meant by "ignoring" here was in fact relaxing as the inherent nature of the [description.]

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[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! I believe the whole glowing rectangle culture is designed to relieve us of the knowledge and abilities of this power.

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[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Aww c'mon, Snow, don't be silly, he would never do that. Some of us do not care about useless internet "points".

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[–]FormosaOolong 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My understanding of what u/magnora7 is saying is that one should refrain from focusing one's energy on hating/disliking a person place or thing. (My own take on "ignoring" the hate is that you rest with it as it is, neither avoiding, indulging nor neutralizing it.) Instead, harnessing the power that is the essence of hate (or any other descriptor) --raw energy--and focusing that potent energy on solutions.

In other words, don't get caught in an energy-draining eddy of psycho-emotional material--use that momentum for imagining, exploring, implementing solutions for the benefit of all.

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True. Go your own way. Not just with women but with everything.

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[–]Entropick 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your attention is your chief magickal ability. Its focus can be used for all potential. It should be guarded with the highest discipline.

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[–]kazenmusic 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As philosophy, these ideas work very well and are admirable. I'm happy to agree to that point.

In terms of modern experience I think to ignore, or not pay attention, to an unfortunately growing number of topics only leaves psychopath malefactors free to act without scrutiny- or to put it another way, the bastards can get away with anything at all if we don't keep an eye on them.

I feel responsibility to try to keep informed about some things; it would be so unfair if no one even knew what those schemers are up to.

To recap: it would be great to be like that, if I could live with myself.

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[–]The_Lear_Bluce_Ree 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nice stuff. You are 100% correct. I came to a similar realization a few weeks ago and unsubscribed to all the negative podcasts (nasty people on them) and re-evaluated my website rotation. Twitter among the worst of them.

Garbage in, garbage out.

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Yes! They'll force your attention into a tiny self-serving Overton window if you let them.

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[–]beermeem 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Attention is almost literally everything. This is an insightful point many people gloss over far too often and far too quickly. Most people also don’t do enough work to expand the capacity of their attention. Everyone can foster their ability to “pay” attention but few actively work toward this.

One quibble. Ignoring something is not the same as not giving it attention. If you have developed a deep sense of your attention you will be able to feel when you are being actively “ignored” versus when someone is simply not paying you any attention. “Ignoring” is actually an active subset of paying attention. While in the public sphere it is certainly preferable to giving full attention, on the energetic level, ignoring is still feeding the beast and one must advance fully beyond giving any level attention, which includes actively ignoring.

Complex, I know. The Buddhists explain it more deeply, especially in Vajrayana.

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[–]magnora7[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It really is a challenge. Our attention is very "sticky", but properly directing our attention is a skill worth mastering.

https://masterkeydrchris.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/which-wolf-do-you-feed.jpg

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[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks

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Nice post.

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[–]Tom_Bombadil 13 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 1 fun14 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

These are great points.

It's a challenge to ignore all of the bullshit.

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The lack of down-votes is really the key ingredient that makes this place special.

Downvote mechanics result in echo-chambers.

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[–]bald-janitor 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

My poem...

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[–]swordofdamocles42 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

what was reddit censoring you from sharing?

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[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're welcome :)

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[–]VantaFount 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

But you're forgetting a very important point:
Nobody would follow you.

Magnora should put me in charge, he's to big a wuss to run a site like this. by Assfuck in magnora7

[–]Assfuck[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Banning everyone you don't like just gets you ddossed.

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[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awesome post magnora. Really loved this.

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[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lots of people are waking up, as things get worse. I think it is inevitable, in some form or another.

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[–]idkwhatimseeking 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I, for one, can't wait for this revolution you speak of. It's bad.. very bad. And there is still only very few people who can even see it. It has to start somewhere.. like forced awareness in majorly developed countries (mainly the usa). Awareness leads to action.

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[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am using "revolution" here in the sense of "the next iteration in our cultural evolution as a civilization"

Very interesting comment, I think you are dead-on about quite a few things.

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Not sure who wrote this stuff. But there are two important things to think about on this long post:

1.) The word revolution. What does it mean? To revolve, to return? People have their own ideas. Just think about it though.

2.) Beliefs and Opinions. With the fake news and censorship, it has become tremendously difficult for people to formulate their own beliefs and opinions to match the social reality we are in. Most have fallen to swallowing propaganda, while others are clinging to their set beliefs passed onto them via generational sects. Few will be able to engineer their beliefs and ideas to the accuracy required by crushing lies and straining the truth out of it all.

So basically, we are seeing the need to revolve back on our beliefs and opinions to fit reality; without breaking it or us. But due to the obstacles present, some conflict will probably take place and therefore an internet distribution protocol would not be the instantaneous golden pill due to misinfo, disinfo and plain old prejudice. Not to mention a physical conflict may disrupt telecommunications infrastructure in the future.

So really the revolution of ideas and opinion starts with you. On an individual level. Now what do you have left to learn and do?

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[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is how I think a real revolution has to happen to actually work. It's not a revolution of guns and wars, but rather a more fundamental revolution of opinions and ideas.

Here are some cross posts with many extra comments, if you're interested:

https://www.reddit.com/r/C_S_T/comments/cvi8ra/the_only_successful_cultural_revolution_will_be_a/

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShrugLifeSyndicate/comments/cw0wdg/the_only_successful_cultural_revolution_will_be_a/

The biggest health threat for the majority nowadays by [deleted] in magnora7

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

In third World countries, yes. But most users on this website are come from first world countries , I insist on my thought of this thread for these countries.

The biggest health threat for the majority nowadays by [deleted] in magnora7

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Biggesst health threat is infectious diseases and chronic illness.

The biggest health threat for the majority nowadays by [deleted] in magnora7

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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The biggest health threat for the majority nowadays by [deleted] in magnora7

[–]astronautrob 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Are you saying the US is comprised of 90% babies and only 10% adults?....

The biggest health threat for the majority nowadays by [deleted] in magnora7

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

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The biggest health threat for the majority nowadays by [deleted] in magnora7

[–]DeepakChokrah 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Umm ok

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess it doesn't work since pedo's favorite tor.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, he and the others I knew of, all had/have savant qualities. In Steven's case, he was a talented graphic/animated artist; with lots of work, and money.

He still has those traits minus the money, but it's skewed into his religious doctrine; like the flat earth with a 'green glass ceiling', and the mark of 'his order' to go along with it, or 'Missterrybabylonestar'. All of these, are imho very good artistic renderings.

What I really cannot believe about him, is he does have a scary little following. Last I heard, for money, he was having them give him blowjobs on pornhub; not really sure about this, but read it.

I guess from there, the only other thing I know of him, is that Trinity over at GLP has at one point received I believe court protection orders against the guy, lol.

No worries, the saviors will probably show up here at some point, muhahahahahaha....

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]fred_red_beans 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think delusional is necessarily born from the internet. This guy just looks psychotic, like he took too much acid one day and never quite came back. Yea, he reminds me of people who went places or got involved with things that just weren't suited for them and made them pop. Wow, believes he's Jesus, has control of government agencies, and is going to kill anyone he sees as a threat; who could ask more from a savior? lol

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]HeyImSancho 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, we had him, and a couple others. I really think that some people have to a degree a sheltered existence, and upon experiencing perhaps a different reality, or a more encompassing reality, they seem to crack.

LOL, I never thought about this, but is there a term for made crazy by the Internet?

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

this is an excellent idea. Can probably train up an AI to spot the bad ones and ban them too, reducing the amount of accounts left to authorize

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yea, I'm just messing. ;-)

Could be anyone?

JC is notably absent?

He is a Chinese national. Could be him?!

JK JC.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mean that's fair, and I appreciate it. But 90% of the guy's posts were literally "Let's kill niggers with shotguns" and stuff like that, verbatim. It's the bottom of the pyramid of debate, so it's against site rules. And he was posting only that type of content, as fast as he could. And creating 20 accounts to do so, in an obviously serial manner. So it was a pretty clear situation from my standpoint that he wasn't here to merely contribute his viewpoint to the website.

I appreciate your story though, thank you for sharing. It's good to hear other perspectives about this stuff, because it's often not black-and-white, like you pointed out. But thankfully in this case it was.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]HeyImSancho 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I actually owned part of a forum for a while; it was a break away like saidit is. There were similar 'we must act' arguments on numerous topics.

One such topic of 'we must act', was for those who inevitably had some sort of psychological break, and then found themselves to be 'god incarnate'. Somehow, we had a few of those breaks on our forum before it closed; one of which was Steven Joseph Christopher.

I don't really have a point, other than I comprehend what you're talking about, and feel the need to do so, as I'm not playing 'devil's advocate'. What I am noting, is living long enough to see what wasn't accepted, and what was joked on; is now often times protected, and those that can be traced back to disliking it vocally, are now having to often times, if lucky 'apologize', for that 'transgression' decades past.

EDIT TO ADD: part of my point, as the longer this site is around, you'll see the participants pushing for the narratives they want addressed, and often times, others shunned. But, I agree that spam is spam, and you as the site owner must figure out what to moderate, and what not to.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We have to draw the line somewhere. Their actions are not worth defending, even as devil's advocate, imo

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While you know better than I do on your own site, I was merely pointing out, that protection for the 'sub genre' mentioned is growing; it's a fact. Censoring soon, could play out like white folk now being called out for wearing blackface at Halloween in the 1980's; actions now, are held accountable later by society.

As long as there's no violation of the law, why censor? I note, I believe Jordan Peterson, or one of those folks is working on a platform, that they at least say, will offer free speech, short of a court ordering the removal of said content.

I mean, 30 years ago, this 'topic' could've been on drag queens, and the dangers poised there, yet today, we've got drag queen reading hour in libraries across America.

Things are quickly changing.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This.

Edit: +3

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's probably worth mentioning to recently joining community members that this type of thing has happened here before.

This is probably round 3 or 4, so this isn't his first round of community agitation, with many calling for action.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]Tom_Bombadil 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

The main difference is that it happened to you, and not him.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Could be one hyper-nationalistic Chinese guy who's not associated with the government. There's really no way at all of telling who it was or why they did it though. Probably just some guy messing around to feel powerful, tbh

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah we do have a way. We ended up banning about a dozen accounts from this guy, I haven't checked but I'm fairly certain he was upvoting himself. But if it became a deeper problem, that would be a great thing to check next.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It must have been... the Chinese!!!

<One guy>

;-)

/s

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

YOU forgot the ADL, the organization that boasts about working with Google, and hundreds of other Tech companies to censor.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]WanderForUmm 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not sure if you have are already tracking this, but i assume you have a way of seeing who is upvoting troll posts, and correlating those?

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]WanderForUmm 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

One of the keys to the strategy they used successfully to destroy voat was to scare off new users. Whenever there was a major subreddit banning on reddit, a bunch of fake racist/pedo/nazi whatever accounts that had barely posted for months fired up and went into overdrive. My suggestion, unpleasant as it may be, is to moderate the front page to some degree, and try and cultivate a TRUSTED base of mods for major communities to do the garbage work to stop the trolls in them. In my opinion, trying to cultivate a culture and a sufficiently large userbase that their shit is kept off the frontpage would, if nothing else, give a good idea of how large an org they have, if they scale up their efforts with the site's userbase.

On that last point, last I checked, one of the only voat communities that didn't get destroyed by the racist and pedo trolls was FatPeopleHate. They managed to keep the trolld mostly out despite whatever else was going on by having relatively heavy censorship of things unrelated to hating fat people, and a policy that required moderator appeals to be accompanied by a timestamped picture to prove that they weren't fat. I'm no fan of FPH, or of censorship, but it's interesting to see that strange policy seemed to keep the trolls out, almost inadvertantly.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's true. Voat usually just disables new user account creation when they're under attack, which isn't a terrible idea.

It would be nice if user report flags placed extra limitations (less posts per hour allowed) on brand-new users.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]zyxzevn 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If it becomes a problem, you can also put the new users (or suspect users) in a shadow-mode. They won't see the difference.

And after someone trusted has checked their behaviour, you can activate them.

If necessary, you can even add a few variations. I think that you want to spot the good/trusted users, and flag users that behave like bots, click_farm, hacked_account or troll.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Or even China, because we're talking about the Hong Kong situation a lot right now, and China is known for censorship

Or could just be some guy who was bored and decided that would be funny

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We actually have that already. He was hitting that limit, then making a new account and posting again.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great!
Some websites have limits for new accounts or rarely used accounts.
Like amount of posts, and amount of votes.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]zyxzevn 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. Some troll-activist.
Could be just as dumb as CNN.

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We have all that info and are using it

Magnora, what's going on with the front page? by Literally_Caesar in magnora7

[–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think it will stop the big wave. But I agree that other measures are necessary too.

For website administrator, it would be nice to correlate different accounts with time and place (and IP).