Busting Closets at the Rightwingers: Let a European Socialist Remind /s/debatealtright of Their Core Ideology – first upvotes and broad agreement… then murmuring… then DEFENSES of socialist behavior & REJECTION of rugged individualism

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    Still takes a severe case of LRC to end up on the wrong end of it.

    We're not on the wrong end, we're on the right end.

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      I'm not opposed to socialism, but I am opposed to internationalism and base materialism. I believe that class matters, but not as much as race.

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        You mean globalism.

        Whether we want to call it internationalism, globalism, rootless cosmopolitanism, what have you, we're talking about the same thing. I tend to avoid the second term just because it makes you sound like Alex Jones.

        Define, please.

        Orthodox Marxism doesn't leave any room for nationalism or spirituality. Communism and capitalism both tend to reduce everything (including the people) to interchangeable economic units. Especially in the case of Marxism, this exclusive concern with the material world surely stems from the Jewish religious worldview (where there is no spiritual afterlife, only resurrection on this earth).

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          Race, community, tradition, beauty, strength, greatness, and so on. Some Communist countries have implemented some of these things (China and North Korea), but they've had to incorporate them into a version of Marxism on their own. And the thing is, Communist revolutions have never succeeded without the support of billionaires (foreign or domestic). And our upper class isn't interested in Marxism any more. The Western left doesn't seem to be concerned with workers either - it has been totally subsumed by consumerism, cosmopolitanism, and sexual liberation. If there is to be a workers' movement in the West, it will come from the right.