A list of black slave owners in the United States.... That's right, *black people* were also slave owners, according to this Wikipedia page....

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[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (24 children)

A list of white slave owners would be antisemitic.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

Not all white people are or were Jewish.

[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

Not at all what I am saying. The majority of slave owners were jews. Something like 1% of white people owned slaves while 20% of jews owned slaves.

Regardless of what the specific number is, any accounting of who owned slaves would make it too obvious that it is jews who are most responsible for slavery in North America, and likely all white countries and colonies.

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    [–]Canbot 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    The name calling perfectly demonstrates what credibility you have on this topic.

    blame all their problems on jews

    How is this my problem? It is just reality.

    whites didn't do nuthing

    Ad hominem.

    a straight out lie.

    A bullshit claim from, a clearly jewish, emotionally driven and very biased person. Of the records that exist and are public it is clear that the majority of slave ships were owned by jews. The majority of slaves were servants owned by the wealthy. The majority of the wealthy were jews. Of the wealthy non jews the christians were religiously opposed to slavery and thus far less likely to own any, while jewish religious teachings allow for slavery. The only logical conclusion is that the majority of slaves were owned by jews.

    Furthurmore, it is clear that jews control the media, academia, and effectively all popular internert search engines and social media. They control the narrative. If an audit of who owned slaves did not condemn jews it would be public.

    [–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    That is bullshit and you know it!No one disputes that there were jews who did own slaves.However, to say that europeans had 0 involvement with the slave trade is just showing your ethic narcissism.In fact, the claim was even denounced by the American Historical Association, which in response to the book "The secret relationship between blacks and jews"(where people get this idea from) publicized that "The AHA deplores any misuse of history that distorts the historical record to demonize or demean a particular racial, ethnic, religious, or cultural group. The Association therefore condemns as false any statement alleging that Jews played a disproportionate role in the exploitation of slave labor or in the Atlantic slave trade." https://www.historians.org/research-and-publications/perspectives-on-history/march-1995/aha-council-issues-policy-resolution-about-jews-and-the-slave-trade First of all, despite the book's title, it's no secret that there were Jews connected to the slave trade. Not just in the Americas- also in any society in which Jews lived in which people owned slaves. This ownership was by and large representative of their number proportionately in the population. They definitely owned and traded slaves specifically in the Americas, though to different degrees at various times. This is something that has been known by historians basically forever (as far back as an early work of Jewish history from 1788!) and has never been kept a secret. (I remember seeing a fellow undergrad student at a conference who was excitedly telling her professor about how she had "discovered" that Jews were part of the slave trade, and he basically laughed and said, yeah, we know.)

    That doesn't prevent The Secret Relationship from being essentially a calumny against the Jewish people, a book which Henry Louis Gates Jr of Harvard called "the bible of the new anti-Semitism" in his NYT review of the book. The claims that Jews were major or disproportionate parts of the slave trade, or that they owned far more slaves than the average white person, are often made by cherry picking data from intellectually valid sources (the book is very proud of its thousand-plus footnotes, though one review in The Atlantic notes how confusing and obfuscating the footnoting system is) and taking it out of context. Some data points which are used in the book are actually taken from books and articles which endeavor to prove (and succeed in proving) exactly the opposite- that Jews were a minute part of the American slave trade/ownership, at most proportionate to their (also then tiny) proportion of the population. In other cases, the book relies on information from biased secondary sources, as I'll get into below.If you actually cared about real history instead of your"Whites are too pure and did nothing wrong". read here https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1995/09/slavery-and-the-jews/376462/ and here https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1994/12/22/the-slave-trade-and-the-jews/

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    to say that europeans had 0 involvemena

    Strawman

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    This ownership was by and large representative of their number proportionately in the population.

    That is a lie. I already explained why. You have no source for this claim, it is purely a biased assumption. As I explained any reasonable person would conclude that jews disproportionately owned slaves given other verifiable facts.

    [–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    You have shown 0 sources for your claims and continue to state"It's a fact"over and over again.I love when neo nazis like you act as though you have all the facts whereas everyone that disagree with you is brainwashed.Show me the lie?

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    neon nazi

    There is that name calling again. 🤣

    I provided solid logic. Your claims perfectly represent your behaviour. It's simple projection.

    [–]jacques1102 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Once again you haven't shown any sources, but hey continue acting like you've won.

    [–]Dragonerne 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    You're a jew

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    You're a Christian.Tell me did you celebrate the pittsburgh synagogue shooting?Be honest!

    [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Doubt it happened and if it did, it's hardly comparable to the millions of white Christians that jewish communists slaughtered last century

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Denying a shooting that happened.Let me guess every shooting is a hoax except for ones that happened to target white christians?

    [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Do you deny that jews slaughtered millions of white Christians in the last century?

    [–]jacques1102 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Did they do it in the name of Judaism though?For example,Vladimir Lenin is brought up by your types as a jewish killer as if he did it in the name of Judaism and two he didn't even know he was jewish.Also Lenin had Russian, German, Swedish, and Kalmyk ancestry.Unless you want to believe that small bit of jewish blood makes you magically want to become a communist why do you ignore his non jewish ancestry?How much jewish blood does someone need to want to(in your words)rule the world and kill white people?Lastly,even though lenin's mother was said to be jewish whereas his father wasn't, he was taught about socialism through him.So nless you want to believe his jewish wife brainwashed him into becoming a communist then if anything you could blame his father.

    [–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    You are mixing the idea of race and religion. White people can be Jewish, believing in the Lord God Jehovah, and waiting on the promised Messiah. But that does not mean all white people are Jewish. Some white people are Christian, believing the Messiah already came as the man Jesus Christ who died for mankind on the cross, and wait on his return. Other white people are Muslim, also believing Jesus (Isa) is the Messiah but not admitting he died on the cross, and other white people are atheist and do not believe Jesus is the truth. Anybody, regardless of what they think about Jesus, even a black man, can be "converted" to Judaism, visit a Jewish synagogue, put the little cap on his head, and say he is Jewish. And then there is the inconvenient truth that black people were also slave owners. That does not mean all black people are Jewish. All races have a history of enslaving their fellow man, regardless of their faith.

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    I'm not mixing anything. Jewish people don't consider themselves white except when using that designator to slander white people (as in tweeting "as a white person...") or to hide and decieve (as in using wealth statistics that only categorize by race to account their massive wealth as white wealth).

    Jews have white skin but will always be nepotistic with only jews. They do not consider any other white people to be thier kin. They see all other people as beneath them. They always use their positions of power to unfairly benefit jews, and often that means cutting down others just for the sake of cutting down others because in the grand scheme it benefits jews for everyone else to be weaker.

    I don't know how you got the idea that I am confusing white people with jews.

    I suspect that after decades of anti white propaganda you have internalized it so much that the idea of someone other than white people being blamed for slavery in america is incomprehensible.

    Sleep on it, and come back to it.

    [–]In-the-clouds[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I don't know how you got the idea that I am confusing white people with jews.

    ~

    Jews have white skin....

    See how you are mixing skin color with faith?

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    That half sentence you cut is literally making the opposite claim than what you are trying to represent. My point is that their white skin is the only reason anyone claims they are white, but it does not make them homogenous with other white people. They separate themselves, hate white people, and have no racial identity in common with white people.

    They are a genetically distinct tribe.

    I said nothing of faith. That is your strawman.

    [–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Canbot is again getting skin color mixed up with faith. "Jew" is not a word that describes skin color or physical appearance. It is not fully true to say Jews have white skin, as Canbot says, because Jews can have any skin color. It would be like saying Christians have white skin, but surely you know that people of all nations and ancestry claim to be Christian. Jesus came to the Jews: those that had the word of God in their possession. Those that believed Jesus and followed him became Christians. Christians have the word of God, both the Old Testament (which includes old Jewish scriptures) and the New Testament (the teachings of Jesus Christ and his followers).

    These words describe faith, not race: Jew, Christian, Muslim, Atheist.... It's not a race. And do not be deceived: There are people who say they are one or the other, but are liars. Only God knows the heart of a man. But you can know a tree by its fruit.

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    This is wrong. Jew is also an ethnicity. A very simple search will confirm this.

    [–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    For anyone who cares: The Holy Bible defines a true Jew by an invisible quality, something you cannot see with your physical eyes:

    "But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God." Romans 2:29

    And a false Jew:

    "[...] I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." Revelation 2:9