How Homosexuality harms Civilizations, Ibn Khaldun

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[–]EternalSunset[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Once you have weak men you just get steamrolled by the nearest civilization which still produces more war-like men. This is an actual event that repeated itself dozens of times throughout history; greeks and romans, romans and visigoths, visigoths and moors, the turkic invasions, the mongol invasions, the hum invasions, the timurids, etc... Men exist to be hard, else we wouldn't exist and humans would be hermaphrodites like earthworms.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

First off there is a difference between social decline and getting conquered. I understand the relationship, but it is not one and the same.

And there have always been weak men. No modern society is all chads. So there must be some room for gay men to exist without it becoming a security risk.

That equation is greatly effected by technology. And in modern warfare there are many positions that even women can do. So you can't really have a mixed sex military but turn around and say it's the gays that make us unprepared. I'm pretty sure the majority of deaths these days come from drone strikes. Those are gay AF.

[–]EternalSunset[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Technology always was a fundamental aspect of warfare even in ancient times. One of the main reasons Alexander the Great was able to conquer so much was due to the immense advantage the sarissa formation had against the common infantry and cavalry formations of the time. Yet having men who are fierce and willing to fight continues to be one of the most important factors in deciding winner of any war. Even a drone operator can become demoralized, a deserter, a traitor or a saboteur. Nobody wants to fight for a country that is decadent and offers them nothing, no man wants to answer a call to arms in order to defend the wife he didn't marry, the children he doesn't have and the home he is renting.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You'd be surprised. Most people fight to the death blindly.