How Homosexuality harms Civilizations, Ibn Khaldun

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[–]Canbot 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

They compare homosexuality to building better homes, cooking better food, and otherwise leading a better life. How is that social decline. They are contradicting themselves.

[–]EternalSunset[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Ever saw that meme saying 'Hard times create hard men, hard men create good times, good times create soft men.'? It's basically the simplified version of the cyclical civilization theory originally formulated by Ibn Khaldun.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If the peak of that cycle is opulence than the goal should be to stop the cycle at the top. Maximize opulence. Embrace the gayness as a natural regulator to run away population growth.

[–]EternalSunset[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Once you have weak men you just get steamrolled by the nearest civilization which still produces more war-like men. This is an actual event that repeated itself dozens of times throughout history; greeks and romans, romans and visigoths, visigoths and moors, the turkic invasions, the mongol invasions, the hum invasions, the timurids, etc... Men exist to be hard, else we wouldn't exist and humans would be hermaphrodites like earthworms.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

First off there is a difference between social decline and getting conquered. I understand the relationship, but it is not one and the same.

And there have always been weak men. No modern society is all chads. So there must be some room for gay men to exist without it becoming a security risk.

That equation is greatly effected by technology. And in modern warfare there are many positions that even women can do. So you can't really have a mixed sex military but turn around and say it's the gays that make us unprepared. I'm pretty sure the majority of deaths these days come from drone strikes. Those are gay AF.

[–]EternalSunset[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Technology always was a fundamental aspect of warfare even in ancient times. One of the main reasons Alexander the Great was able to conquer so much was due to the immense advantage the sarissa formation had against the common infantry and cavalry formations of the time. Yet having men who are fierce and willing to fight continues to be one of the most important factors in deciding winner of any war. Even a drone operator can become demoralized, a deserter, a traitor or a saboteur. Nobody wants to fight for a country that is decadent and offers them nothing, no man wants to answer a call to arms in order to defend the wife he didn't marry, the children he doesn't have and the home he is renting.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yet having men who are fierce and willing to fight continues to be one of the most important factors in deciding winner of any war.

The sarissa formation required men, the reaper formation does not. A military that has room for women has room for gays. I don't see a natural existential threat in a mixed modern military. Especially since the US regularly routs the most anti gay militaries in the world. Even in muslim countries where gays are thrown from buildings and women cant walk alone the majority of soldiers are cowards who desert thier positions. Courage and honor are not traits conditional on politics.

I agree that a nuclear family is the strongest unit and necessary for a healthy society, but what you are arguing from is the extreme position of total homosexuality and not making a valid argument from the perspective of modern western society where a minor percentage of people are gay.

Nobody wants to fight for a country that is decadent and offers them nothing,

This sentence contradicts itself. A decadent country offers them decadence.

As for being a serf, that is not a result of homosexuality. The cause of poverty and disenfranchisement are things like the fiat currency, central banking scam, political corruption, media monopoly, etc. Serfdom existed before homosexuality was accepted. While intersectionality exists to divide and conquer and homosexuality is part of that tool set it is wrong to blame homosexuality for that system. That system would exist and oppress just as well without the gays.

[–]EternalSunset[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The reaper DOES require men. Drones do not design, engineer, program, assemble, inspect, repair, refuel, rearm, command or operate themselves. The misunderstanding you are making is thinking this is about just raw strength and masculinity, when in reality it is about the fierceness, morale, determination and fighting spirit of men. People who don't believe what they fight for is worth more than their own lives, those people do not fight. The US is a declining power and it is on the path to be challenged by and overcome by China, even the US military itself can foresee and is preparing for this future, this is why they are preparing to go to war with China and prevent this.

The decadence you say decadent societies offer is a solace not a gift. A synthetic replacement for the real thing that they don't believe you deserve. If they give you pornography, a man's anus, a plastic doll, a VR headset, or a 'gender transition', none of that will ever make it up for the love of a real woman, nor will any of this allow you to ever experience the unconditional love of holding in your arms a son that is truly yours. It's all meant to dull us, in the same vein they would have us take anti-depressants because we can't have joy, eat crickets because we can't have nutrition and own nothing because they are taking everything. We would never slumber and accept such a thing if we weren't kept asleep and unaware of the truth, and this is where you are wrong; they would never get away with this without numbing us through their decadence.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You'd be surprised. Most people fight to the death blindly.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just more proof we live in hell.